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What defense do those with a pre-tribulational view of the rapture have regarding Paul's use of "day of Christ" in 2 Thessalonians 2? [migrated]

From my understanding, the pre-tribulational rapture doctrine suggests that separate terms are used for the rapture event and Christ's complete arrival at the end of the tribulation. Specifically, ...
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Is Rev 3,10, 11 saying that the church of Philadelphia was raptured?

What does the message to Philadelphia in Rev 3 mean? In verses 10 & 11 specifically it seems to be promised that the Philadelphian church would be raptured during/before THE tribulation or some ...
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Why is it traditionally thought that book of daniel's author is Daniel? [duplicate]

I understand that most scholars think that book of daniel is a forgery and definitely not written in the 6th century BC and not written by Daniel. What strikes me is why christians traditionally think ...
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Daniel 7:4 noun antecedent

Just a grammatical construction question about Dan 7:4: which was lifted up, made to stand, and given the mind of a man the eagle, its wings, or both? I understand that it is natural to assume that ...
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Four fallen angels killing mankind

When the four fallen angels underneath the Euphrates River are released, are they to kill Believers in God, or just people who have not repented? Rev 9:13-15 - Then the sixth angel sounded his ...
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What is the difference between power, throne, and authority in Revelation 13:2?

What is the difference between power, throne, and authority? Revelation 13:2b NIV The dragon [that ancient serpent called the devil, or Satan12:9] gave the beast his power and his throne and great ...
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When was Satan cast out of heaven? Did Jesus bind him at Calvary in order to release his captives and take his keys?

Ezekiel 28:11 The word of the Lord came to me: 12 “Son of man, take up a lament concerning the king of Tyre and say to him: ‘This is what the Sovereign Lord says: “ ‘You were the seal of perfection, ...
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Daniel 10:20 and the prince of Grecia

In Daniel 10:20 who is the prince the text refers to when it states the prince of Grecia shall come? Dan 10:20 - “Do you know why I have come to you?” he said. “I must return at once to fight against ...
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Who does the Bible say the Two Olive Trees and Two Lampstands (Two Witnesses) are?

When I hear people ask who the Two Witnesses are, responses often jump to Moses and Elijah, Enoch and Elijah, Zechariah, Haggai, and others guesses. It seems to me the Bible tells us who the Two ...
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Could the apocalyptic writings in the Gospels like Matthew 24 and Revelation be referring to different events?

Can a reasonable case be made that early new testament apocalyptic writings sometimes attributed to a later second-coming event, such as that which is described in the book of Revelation, really refer ...
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Does the prophecy in 1 Enoch 10:17-21 concern the righteous after the Flood, or a later time after the final Judgment?

In the tenth chapter of 1 Enoch, in verse 17 (or 23 in some manuscripts), following the sentence on Semyaza and the other fallen angels who procreated the nephilim, God says that: 11 To Michael ...
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Daniel 11: 36-37 and henotheism

Daniel 11:36-37 KJV And the king shall do according to his will; and he shall exalt himself, and magnify himself above every god, and shall speak marvellous things against the God of gods, and shall ...
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What is the significance of Christ's return for the Thessalonian Church?

2 Thessalonians 2:2 speaks of the church as being concerned that Christ had already come. What is the impact of Christ's return; why such concern? 2 Thess 2:2 (ESV) - not to be quickly shaken in mind ...
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Who is Revelation's Death?

In Revelation, Death comes with the opening of the fourth seal. Rev 6:7, 8 - And when the Lamb opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth living creature say, “Come!” Then I looked and ...
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Are the powers in Revelation 6:8 assigned to the Four Horsemen respectively?

Rev 6:8 - I looked, and there before me was a pale horse! Its rider was named Death, and Hades was following close behind him. They were given power over a fourth of the earth to kill by sword, famine ...
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Jesus told his twelve they would not all taste death before they saw the Kingdom of God and Son of Man come with clouds of heaven. How could that be? [duplicate]

Jesus says this to his disciples in Mark 9:1 and in Mark 14 he tells the Jeruslem Temple authorities who were about to condemn him to death that they ("you," pl.) will see the Son of Man ...
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The Humanization of G'd, how does it happen, is He a Person?

I came with a very interesting point that said the prophet Daniel: Daniel 7:9 I was looking until thrones were set up, and the Ancient of Days sat; His raiment was as white as snow, and the hair of ...
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Why is there no mention of “the church” in Revelation after the first three chapters?

In studying eschatology, I haven’t found a sufficient solution to the long absence of any mention of Christ’s church after the letters to the churches in the first three chapters. Specifically, during ...
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Is the Great Tribulation equivalent to the wrath of God?

“For then there will be great tribulation, such as has not been from the beginning of the world until now, no, and never will be.” ‭‭Matthew‬ ‭24:21‬ ‭ Is this great tribulation referenced by Jesus ...
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Who are the people who destroy the earth in the last days and what might they be doing? Rev. 11:18

There is a lot of talk these days about how to best take care of the planet but Revelation 11:18 specifically singles out those who destroy it for destruction themselves. Here is the citation in its ...
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Where does the rapture appear in the book of Revelation? [closed]

No other book talks so specifically about end time events as Revelation. But there is no clear account found there of one of the most highly anticipated events in all of church history. Many resort to ...
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Are the 6th and 7th seals, and the trumpet and bowl judgements in Revelation different events or do they describe the same event from multiple angles?

Question expansion Seals 1 - 5 are fairly self-explanatory and seem to echo the words of Jesus, e.g.: Matthew 24:6-8 (Seals 1 - 4) You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but see to it that you are ...
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"Is Acts 4:23-27 [NASB] previewing in a small way Rev 16:13,14, in that kings and rulers are gathered together against God and His Christ?"

In Acts 4:25,26, the apostles, after being confronted by 'underhanded' chief priests and elders, after the death and resurrection of Jesus, are heard to be quoting David Thy servant, who, having been ...
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REVELATION 16:16 [duplicate]

Whats does MEGIDO mean in REVELATION 16:16? Revelation 16:16 Christian Standard Bible (CSB) 16 So they assembled the kings at the place called in Hebrew, Armageddon. [a] Footnotes: 16:16 Some mss ...
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Has the sign of the son of man been revealed?

The sign has been seen by all, but without revelation it is not attributed to the son of man by those who see His sign. What is the sign of the son of man? Matt 24:30 - "Then will appear the ...
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What is the opposite of Love? [closed]

The answer to this question will reveal the single greatest identifier of the antichrist who is the lawless one spoken of in 2 Thessalonians 2:-7.
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Should Jesus' statement on the intensity of the tribulation be interpreted hyperbolically?

In Matthew 24:21,22 Jesus says, " For then there will be great tribulation, such as has not been from the beginning of the world until now, no, and never will be. And if those days had not been ...
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"But pray that your flight may not be in the winter, or on a sabbath...." - Matt, 24:20. Could this line be in reference to a single day?

It has often been said, by many a theologian, that Jesus' words, as portrayed in Matt, 24:15-22, to take just part of the "Olivet Discourses" (for the moment), imply a dual prophecy, ...
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Why does the elder ask John about the multitudes in Revelation 7?

Revelation 7:13 KJV 13 And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they? The elder asks John about the multitudes in white robes ...
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Is the beloved city in Revelation 20 the same as the new city in Revelation 21?

We are told that Christ will reign with the resurrected saints for a thousand years in the camp of the saints and the beloved city which will lead eventually to the demise of satan. Revelation 20,4-9 ...
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How historical-critical biblical scholars calculate the 490 year prophecy in Daniel 9?

Introduction The accepted date of authorship by critical scholars for the visions in Daniel (7-12) is the second century BC (Maccabean revolt 167-3 BC). The reasoning goes that the predictions in ...
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Why are there only four kings of Persia in Daniel 11:2? [closed]

Daniel 11:2, Now then, I tell you the truth: Three more kings will arise in Persia, and then a fourth, who will be far richer than all the others. When he has gained power by his wealth, he ...
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Does apocalyptic symbolism apply to the use of "the heaven, the earth and . . ." in Hosea 2:21-22?

Does apocalyptic symbolism apply to the use of "the heaven, the earth, the wine, the corn and the oil" in Hosea's prophesy in Hosea 2:21-22? “And in that day I will answer, declares the Lord, I ...
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In the Book of Enoch, what is meant by the ram in Parable of the Animals?

In the Book of Enoch, there is a long parable of animals, representing many Biblical figures such as Cain and Abel, David and Saul, Solomon, etc. I would like to make sense of part this parable; who ...
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What does Daniel mean by saying "its end shall come with a flood"? (Daniel 9:26-27)

The Lord Jesus referenced Daniel in his discourse on abomination of desolation standing in the temple. What does Daniel mean by saying "Its end shall come with a flood . . ." and how do we reconcile ...
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In Revelation 22 is it twelve manner of fruits per month or one fruit per month for twelve months?

Revelation 22:2 ( KJV) 2 In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and ...
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Why does the Greek use different words for "like" in Revelation 13:11?

Westcott & Hort 1881 Καὶ εἶδον ἄλλο θηρίον ἀναβαῖνον ἐκ τῆς γῆς, καὶ εἶχεν κέρατα δύο ὅμοια ἀρνίῳ, καὶ ἐλάλει ὡς δράκων. Revelation 13:11-18 English Standard Version (ESV) The Second Beast ...
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Revelation 13:10 Everyone in the book of life perishes by sword or captivity?

Regarding the dragon depicted in Revelation 13, verse 8 (NASB) reads: All who dwell on the earth will worship him, everyone whose name has not been written from the foundation of the world in the ...
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What do the "thunders", "voices", "lightning", "earthquake", "hail", and similar constructions signify in Revelation?

Reading Revelation one finds many descriptions of the same (or nearly the same) great tempest or display of more-than-inclement weather, shall we say, in heaven (i.e., in St. John's vision). This ...
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Has anyone argued Daniel and Revelation's visions can be interpreted analogously?

I've heard it said that the visions of Daniel 7-12 and the book of Revelation both contain the same "dream-like apocalyptic" language and as such can be interpreted together. So the meaning of ...
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Matt. 27:52 “tombs also were opened” apocalyptic symbolism?

Matt. 27:51b (NA28) ... καὶ ἡ γῆ ἐσείσθη καὶ αἱ πέτραι ἐσχίσθησαν,  52 καὶ τὰ μνημεῖα ἀνεῴχθησαν καὶ πολλὰ σώματα τῶν κεκοιμημένων ἁγίων ἠγέρθησαν,  53 καὶ ἐξελθόντες ἐκ τῶν μνημείων μετὰ τὴν ἔγερσιν ...
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What historical reasons resulted in Revelation being included in most Christian canons?

As a source, the book of Revelation is something of an outlier for a book of the Bible that got accepted into the canonical New Testament of most branches of Christianity: it is the only explicitly ...
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What is the distinction between symbolic and apocalyptic interpretations of Ezekiel's temple vision?

I'm studying the temple vision of Ezekiel (chapters 40-48) and I'm trying to understand and compare the various ways in which this is interpreted. As enumerated in another answer on this site here, ...
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Was the Revelation written in code to hide it from the Romans?

Several years ago I was intrigued with the Revelation, and began a study. Of particular interest to me was the use of symbolism. Within that study the symbolism became understandable in relation to ...
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Is Galatians 1:4 referring to the current time and location or an apocalyptic period and world-wide condition?

In writing to the Galatians, Paul begins with an identification of Jesus Christ: 3 Grace to you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ, 4 who gave himself for our sins to deliver us ...
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Who is the little horn that 'has eyes' and is 'speaking' blasphemous things in Daniel 7?

I will keep the question simple. Who is the little horn that 'has eyes' and is 'speaking' blasphemous things in Daniel 7?
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How does Peter fit the events of Acts 2 into the apocalyptic imagery of Joel?

In Act 2, the disciples of Jesus were gathered in the upper room when something extraordinary occurred which caused a stir in Jerusalem. Luke gives Peter a chance to explain in the first extended ...
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What is "apocalyptic" literature?

What are the characteristics of what is called "apocalyptic" literature? Why would an author use this literary style? Does apocalyptic literature envision the end of the cosmos? If not, what kind(s) ...
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Are there any rules on which things in Revelation must be interpreted literally and which symbolically?

Are there any rules on which things in Revelation must be interpreted literally and which symbolically? The one that comes from the back of my mind is that if a certain thing or a character is already ...
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