Timeline for In defending His actions on the Sabbath, does Jesus use φιλέω rather than ἀγαπάω to imply equality with His Father?
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| Apr 11, 2023 at 20:13 | history | edited | Steve can help♦ | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Aug 22, 2022 at 0:13 | comment | added | Dieter | Here's something to consider then: Jesus: Peter do you agape me? Peter: Yes, I phileo you. Jesus: Peter, do you agape me? Peter: Yes, I pileo you. Jesus: Peter, do you phileo me? Peter: Yes (breaks down) See what I mean? This is where the differences between the Greek words for love are meaningful: agape, phileo, storge, and eros. | |
| Aug 21, 2022 at 21:27 | comment | added | Levan Gigineishvili | @Dieter I agree with providing the three opportunities of repentance to be directly related to the three denials, and this number was needful for Peter, not for the Lord, who forgave Peter even before he openly repented with words, but immediately then, when he started to cry after the third denial. As to the choice of two synonymous words, I do not see yet a significance there, any more than in choice of "arnia" and "probata" that the Lord asked Peter to be shepherd of. | |
| Aug 21, 2022 at 20:14 | comment | added | Dieter | Levan, In my opinion, the choice of agape and phileo by both Jesus and Peter is significant in context. Also consider that Peter denied Jesus three times and Jesus gives Peter the opportunity to affirm him three times. | |
| Jul 10, 2022 at 8:13 | history | edited | Levan Gigineishvili | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Jul 10, 2022 at 6:28 | comment | added | Levan Gigineishvili | @Dottard Thanks dear Dottard for supporting my post | |
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| Jul 10, 2022 at 6:14 | comment | added | Levan Gigineishvili | @AlexBalilo Your mistake is to say that Father just willed to use His Son to create the world and to give eternal life to men; as if the Father had option not to use His Son in creating the world, just like He willed to use sexual intercourse of man and woman for creating a new life, while of course He could do without it, like with Adam, for instance. But this is total nonsense! Father ontologically cannot create the world or give eternal life without the Son co-creating and co-giving, just like a physical sun cannot bypass its rays and enlighten without them - a good patritstic analogy btw. | |
| Jul 10, 2022 at 4:59 | comment | added | Alex Balilo | @LevanGigineishvili. According to Jesus, the one and only God gave him the authority to give eternal life. John 17:1-3. Paul says eternal life comes from God through Jesus Romans 6:23.It was the Father’s will that eternal life would come through the Son: John 6:40. The verse used in this Q does not identify Jesus as the Father/God. Does the Q about equality here gives a right to be identified as "God"? | |
| Jul 10, 2022 at 4:31 | comment | added | Levan Gigineishvili | @AlexBalilo John 6:27 is a confirmation of the same: Both Father and the Son are Source of eternal life, to the effect that it is ontologically impossible for the Father to give life unless the Son co-giving. | |
| Jul 10, 2022 at 3:22 | comment | added | Alex Balilo | @Dottard. My comments to this answer points out its errors. | |
| Jul 10, 2022 at 2:25 | comment | added | Dottard | @Alex - really?? In John 6:27 Jesus claims to be the source of eternal life!! But please confine your comments to clarifications and pointing out errors of fact rather than trying to theologically provoke. Comments are not the place for debate. | |
| Jul 10, 2022 at 0:00 | comment | added | Alex Balilo | Gigineishvili. In the next chapter, Jesus pointed to God as the source of his life. He was created. His life was caused by his God. John 6:57. | |
| Jul 9, 2022 at 15:39 | history | edited | Levan Gigineishvili | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Jul 9, 2022 at 15:00 | history | answered | Levan Gigineishvili | CC BY-SA 4.0 |