Timeline for Who are the saints / holy ones in 1 Thessalonians 3:13 and 2 Thessalonians 1:3–12?
Current License: CC BY-SA 4.0
11 events
| when toggle format | what | by | license | comment | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Jun 17, 2020 at 9:51 | history | edited | CommunityBot |
Commonmark migration
|
|
| Feb 19, 2019 at 20:07 | vote | accept | XegesIs | ||
| Feb 19, 2019 at 20:06 | comment | added | XegesIs | Very well, I will accept this for now. Thank you Jacob M. and Mac's Musings | |
| Feb 19, 2019 at 20:06 | vote | accept | XegesIs | ||
| Feb 19, 2019 at 20:07 | |||||
| Feb 19, 2019 at 19:46 | history | edited | Jacob M. | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
Added something about 1 Thess 4:13-14.
|
| Feb 19, 2019 at 19:44 | comment | added | Jacob M. | Yes, @Mac'sMusings is correct. The "bring with" in 1 Thess 4:13-14 is referring to Jesus bringing those from the earth back with Him to heaven. It's not talking about bringing those from heaven to the earth with Him. Added this information to the post above. | |
| Feb 19, 2019 at 10:48 | comment | added | user25930 | You are both correct - look also at v15 which says (as pointed out correctly by Jacob M) that the living will not precede the dead and the dead are raised first and THEN the living go to be with Jesus. Any explanation must account for BOTH verses. The "bring with" is what happens when God returns to heaven with EVERYONE classified as righteous. | |
| Feb 19, 2019 at 0:46 | comment | added | XegesIs | 1 Thess. 4.14 : " For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, thus also God will bring those who have fallen asleep through Jesus together with him. " W. Hall Harris III et al., eds., The Lexham English Bible (Bellingham, WA: Lexham Press, 2012), 1 Th 4:14. | |
| Feb 19, 2019 at 0:45 | comment | added | XegesIs | .....Thank you for your contribution. Very good. However, it doesnt quite address what Prof. Hurtado refers to. For example, Prof. Hurtado and Dr. Hill would both agree with you that " It does not make any sense that Christ is bringing His people to come get the people He is bringing! " But, this is not what they are suggesting and their accepted viewpoint doesn't make this blunder. It's just that Hurtado says that the saints that will come with Christ in 1 Thess 3.13 are the dead from 1 Thess 4.13-14. | |
| Feb 18, 2019 at 22:04 | history | edited | Jacob M. | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
Forgot to address the second part of the question.
|
| Feb 18, 2019 at 21:58 | history | answered | Jacob M. | CC BY-SA 4.0 |