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Noting the repetitious stating of this fact in Rev 3:12, it could hardly be construed as a wayward interpretive translation. Or maybe one could explain it away with fancy theology and by using a traditional belief in the 'Jesus who is God construct' by focussing on the favourite proof-texts that support the God/man Jesus, OR, simply ignoring this passage.

Noting the repetitious stating of this fact in Rev 3:12, it must be important to grasp Jesus is clearly not God here. Maybe one could explain that away with fancy theology of the 'Jesus who is God construct' by focussing on the favourite proof-texts that support the God/man Jesus, OR, simply ignoring this passage.

The bible is clear about when Jesus originated. The Gospels tell us about Mary and her miraculous conception by the power of God over her.

This man who lived without sin, though tempted severely (which God cannot be), was raised from the dead by his God (in over 20 places, and a few that mention the Father raised him, so he could not have raised himself as some purport or the bible must be telling lies) now sits next to God Acts 2:33.

for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we live; and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things came and through whom we live. 1Cor 8:6

The bible is clear about when Jesus originated. The Gospels tell us about Mary and her miraculous conception by the power of God over her. Anything other than this reliable biblical explanation which tells of an imaginative pre-existence of Jesus is mistaken and of men, not God.

This man who lived without sin, though severely tempted (which God cannot be), was raised from the dead by his God (in over 20 places, and a few that mention the Father raised him, so he could not have raised himself as some purport or the bible must be telling lies) now sits next to God Acts 2:33.

for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we live; and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things came and through whom we live. 1Cor 8:6

Postscript

Despite such simple to grasp revelation of the "one God, the Father", many seem to insist on complicating the inspired text with a flurry of proof-texts brought to bear on this simple matter - partly quoted verses, biased translations calling Jesus God, placing Jesus in places where he does not belong like John 1:1-3 - the list goes on, making him God for some things and a man for other things - none of this, 'dual-nature' is from the bible, but the creeds written 100's of years after the Apostles. And these being modified for 100's more years to try and plug gaping holes in the theory, while it drifts further from the biblical text with every iteration. God has not inspired the additions to His word or the myriad translations with the audacity to rewrite as they please.

How can Jesus be God? - according to Rev 3:12 and complimentary scripture - all of it, when read in context and of a reliable translation, he cannot be!

Noting the repetitious stating of this fact in Rev 3:12, it could hardly be construed as a wayward interpretive translation. Or maybe one could explain it away with fancy theology and by using a traditional belief in the 'Jesus who is God construct' by focussing on the favourite proof-texts that support the God/man Jesus, OR, simply ignoring this passage.

Seeing that Jesus is now ascended and exalted above all others is a strong message that Jesus cannot be God if he still has a God - the same God as he said he had to Mary before his ascension.

Jesus said, “Do not hold on to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. Go instead to my brothers and tell them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.’” John 20:17

The bible is clear about who God is. He says He is one. Yet somehow, we have Him also being three, without clear biblical mandate, just conjecture and post-Apostolic doctrine.

The bible is clear about when Jesus originated. The Gospels tell us about Mary and her miraculous conception by the power of God over her.

…it seemed fitting to me as well, having investigated everything carefully from the beginning, to write it out for you in an orderly sequence, most excellent Theophilus; 4 so that you may know the exact truth about the things you have been taught Luke 1:3 (excerpt from here)

Of course Jesus has a God - he is but a man - 'made like us in every respect' Heb 2:17

This man who lived without sin, though tempted severely (which God cannot be), was raised from the dead by his God (in over 20 places, and a few that mention the Father raised him, so he could not have raised himself as some purport or the bible must be telling lies) now sits next to God Acts 2:33.

Yes, you are correct, having a Jesus/God who sits next to God and has a God, even when ascended, exalted, made heir (Heb 1) to all God's creation, is a very strange idea that scripture does not support. Rev 3:12 is but another scripture that supports many others in describing and explaining with perfect clarity who Jesus is - and who he is not!

Noting the repetitious stating of this fact in Rev 3:12, it could hardly be construed as a wayward interpretive translation. Or maybe one could explain it away with fancy theology and by using a traditional belief in the 'Jesus who is God construct' by focussing on the favourite proof-texts that support the God/man Jesus, OR, simply ignoring this passage.

Seeing that Jesus is now ascended and exalted above all others is a strong message that Jesus cannot be God if he still has a God - the same God as he said he had to Mary before his ascension.

Jesus said, “Do not hold on to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. Go instead to my brothers and tell them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.’” John 20:17

The bible is clear about who God is. He says He is one. Yet somehow, we have Him also being three, without clear biblical mandate, just conjecture and post-Apostolic doctrine.

The bible is clear about when Jesus originated. The Gospels tell us about Mary and her miraculous conception by the power of God over her.

…it seemed fitting to me as well, having investigated everything carefully from the beginning, to write it out for you in an orderly sequence, most excellent Theophilus; 4 so that you may know the exact truth about the things you have been taught Luke 1:3 (excerpt from here)

Of course Jesus has a God - he is but a man - 'made like us in every respect' Heb 2:17

This man who lived without sin, though tempted severely (which God cannot be), was raised from the dead by his God (in over 20 places, and a few that mention the Father raised him, so he could not have raised himself as some purport or the bible must be telling lies) now sits next to God Acts 2:33.

Yes, you are correct, having a Jesus/God who sits next to God and has a God, even when ascended, exalted, made heir (Heb 1) to all God's creation, is a very strange idea that scripture does not support. Rev 3:12 is but another scripture that supports many others in describing and explaining with perfect clarity who Jesus is - and who he is not!

While it is perfectly acceptable to call Jesus a god, he is not THE God who created all life. God gave Jesus the life he now has - an immortal life that he did not have before. Satan is called the god of this world, Jesus certainly is the god of the new age, the new world that God made everything for, yet he is under the true God and subordinate in every possible sense.

for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we live; and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things came and through whom we live. 1Cor 8:6