Timeline for Is Paul suggesting that human beings are willing participants manipulated to commit evil (Eph. 6:10-13)?
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| Aug 31, 2021 at 6:03 | comment | added | Xeno | @user48152 Ah, OK. | |
| Aug 31, 2021 at 5:33 | comment | added | Steve | You are making it too complicated. Re my comment to the Q, while a deception remains, FW is retarded to the points where it is so damaged/hindered it no longer exists. Only when the deception is lifted can FW exist. | |
| Aug 31, 2021 at 5:27 | comment | added | Xeno | @user48152 How do you mean that we don't have free will? Let me respond with two points that you might not expect. 1) If we could see all of human history as God sees it, no, we would not have free will (that is, we could see what we will do tomorrow, irrespective of we want to do today). 2) We cannot see things from God's perspective as human beings. From God's point of view there is only that which takes place, nothing more. However, because we do not share that perspective, from our point of view, I would argue that we do indeed have free will. So, I'm not sure what you mean. | |
| Aug 31, 2021 at 5:03 | comment | added | Steve | @Xeno we do not have free will - we have the illusion of FW. This illusion is broken down to varying degrees by God's provision. That's why Satan is removed for 1000 yrs to enable free will for all. You cannot reject that which you do not understand or know. | |
| Aug 31, 2021 at 4:06 | comment | added | Xeno | Slow down, please. I'm of the belief that we have free will, and I don't know your position on that. But if you are of the same opinion (that we do have free will) then we have the ability to reject that which is evil and demonic. My point here is that if we do not reject evil - and instead adopt it as part of our lives, then we have, yes, willingly accepted it. I hope this makes sense. If you believe we do not have free will, then I'm not certain how to respond. | |
| Aug 31, 2021 at 1:06 | history | answered | Dave | CC BY-SA 4.0 |