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Jun 15, 2020 at 13:22 comment added Levan Gigineishvili @enegue The paradoxical Trinity doctrine was not arrived at arbitrarily, but out of a logical-dialectical necessity based on the data of the Scriptures. Now, the dialectics is not mine or yours, it is a God-given light between us, between all humans, which leads them all to correct uniform conclusions, for as Heraclitus intuited it even outside of the Biblical context, "if all will follow dialectics, all will say that Truth is one". Thus, to follow dialectical reasoning is always fruitful, moreover, any good fruit should have as its soil a truthful dialectical chain of argument.
Jun 15, 2020 at 13:16 comment added enegue The comment area is not meant for discussion, and I'm not really inclined to pursue a conversation about Trinity doctrine. I do appreciate your view, Levan, and I like much of what you have contributed in your answers on this site, but further comment here will not be fruitful.
Jun 15, 2020 at 13:01 comment added Levan Gigineishvili "Spirit" is used with different semantics. In John 4:24 it is said in a semantics of "completely devoid of matter". In this sense, Father, Logos and H.Ghost are all Spirit, in sense that all are completely devoid of matter. Yet, "Spirit" is also a hypostatic, personal name of Him in the Godhead, who proceeds from the Father, whereas the Father who emits Him, cannot be identified with Him for Father is the emitter and the Spirit/Ghost is emitted. Logos is also Spirit in sense of completely devoid of matter, but neither Logos is to be identified with the H.Ghost.
Jun 15, 2020 at 12:30 comment added enegue @LevanGigineishvili God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth (John 4:24)
Jun 15, 2020 at 11:38 comment added Levan Gigineishvili @enegue "The eternal Spirit that alone moved the Father to speak creation into existence, is the same eternal Spirit that alone moved Jesus to deliver the words of truth and life and give himself up to the cross" - does not this formulation lead to a subordinationism in Trinity, a very strange type of it also, for in usual subordinationist doctrines it is the Father who holds upper hand over the Son and the Spirit, but in this formulation Spirit is who instigates both Father and the Son. Did Spirit also instigate Father to emit Him? Then the Principle of the Trinity is not Father but Spirit.
Jun 14, 2020 at 2:27 comment added enegue The comments area is not for discussion. You have used it correctly to let me know you have some things you want explained, but I don't think I need to add them to my answer. For example, I would have to ask you what you understand by Jesus words, "It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing", but that would be a misuse of the comments area.
Jun 14, 2020 at 2:10 comment added user35499 No I don't want to take this to a discussion room. I just wanted to clarify some of the statements in your answer clarified.
Jun 14, 2020 at 2:03 comment added enegue If you would like to take this to a discussion room. I will join you there.
Jun 14, 2020 at 1:39 comment added user35499 Can you please explain "God knit Himself a body within the womb of Mary" and "The bag of bones as a manifestation of God differs from the burning bush, heaven, the mountain and the thick darkness, in that it is eternal - the invisible God raised the bag of bones from the grave and will continue to manifest in like form forever as king and ruler of the New Heaven and New earth". and " Anyone who worships Jesus as if he were a different being to God is an idolater.".
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