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In view of the question : Luke 23:54 - How should "Sabbath Dawning" be Interpreted?Luke 23:54 - How should "Sabbath Dawning" be Interpreted?

Whether or not Luke is stating that the Sabbath began at dawn, or not - it seems there should be evidence to support either view, so :

Up to, and including, the Second Period Temple, What are the earliest texts and evidences substantiating - that the Jewish Calendar day began at Sunset?


2. Evidences up to and including the the Second Temple Period :

So, not Chrysostom - who may have relied on Rabbinic/Pharasaic authority after the Sadducees had been removed:

Homilies on Matthew (Chrysostom 349-407 CE), Homily 81 - ... he means the day before that feast; for they are accustomed always to reckon the day from the evening ...;

Or, Scriptural Evidence:

If an answer appeals to a supposed "Plain Meaning of Scripture" and has to explain that "plain meaning" - then, it is not a plain meaning. If it is truly "Plain" - then just provide the text, without commentary, flow charts, calendar diagrams, slideshow presentations, etc.

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- httphttps://hermeneutics.stackexchange.com/questions/22124/luke-2354-how-should-sabbath-dawning-be-interpreted
- httphttps://hermeneutics.stackexchange.com/questions/21512/do-idioms-used-in-the-crucifixion-narrative-resolve-the-3-day-3-night-objectio
- httphttps://hermeneutics.stackexchange.com/questions/8861/time-in-first-century-judaism
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1. Question - a Reference Request

In view of the question : Luke 23:54 - How should "Sabbath Dawning" be Interpreted?

Whether or not Luke is stating that the Sabbath began at dawn, or not - it seems there should be evidence to support either view, so :

Up to, and including, the Second Period Temple, What are the earliest texts and evidences substantiating - that the Jewish Calendar day began at Sunset?


2. Evidences up to and including the the Second Temple Period :

So, not Chrysostom - who may have relied on Rabbinic/Pharasaic authority after the Sadducees had been removed:

Homilies on Matthew (Chrysostom 349-407 CE), Homily 81 - ... he means the day before that feast; for they are accustomed always to reckon the day from the evening ...;

Or, Scriptural Evidence:

If an answer appeals to a supposed "Plain Meaning of Scripture" and has to explain that "plain meaning" - then, it is not a plain meaning. If it is truly "Plain" - then just provide the text, without commentary, flow charts, calendar diagrams, slideshow presentations, etc.

***Related:***
- http://hermeneutics.stackexchange.com/questions/27492/historical-evidence-that-the-jewish-calendar-day-began-at-sunrise
- http://hermeneutics.stackexchange.com/questions/22124/luke-2354-how-should-sabbath-dawning-be-interpreted
- http://hermeneutics.stackexchange.com/questions/21512/do-idioms-used-in-the-crucifixion-narrative-resolve-the-3-day-3-night-objectio
- http://hermeneutics.stackexchange.com/questions/8861/time-in-first-century-judaism
- http://hermeneutics.stackexchange.com/questions/22378/historical-evidences-that-the-sabbath-began-at-sunset

1. Question - a Reference Request

In view of the question : Luke 23:54 - How should "Sabbath Dawning" be Interpreted?

Whether or not Luke is stating that the Sabbath began at dawn, or not - it seems there should be evidence to support either view, so :

Up to, and including, the Second Period Temple, What are the earliest texts and evidences substantiating - that the Jewish Calendar day began at Sunset?


2. Evidences up to and including the the Second Temple Period :

So, not Chrysostom - who may have relied on Rabbinic/Pharasaic authority after the Sadducees had been removed:

Homilies on Matthew (Chrysostom 349-407 CE), Homily 81 - ... he means the day before that feast; for they are accustomed always to reckon the day from the evening ...;

Or, Scriptural Evidence:

If an answer appeals to a supposed "Plain Meaning of Scripture" and has to explain that "plain meaning" - then, it is not a plain meaning. If it is truly "Plain" - then just provide the text, without commentary, flow charts, calendar diagrams, slideshow presentations, etc.

***Related:***
- https://hermeneutics.stackexchange.com/questions/27492/historical-evidence-that-the-jewish-calendar-day-began-at-sunrise
- https://hermeneutics.stackexchange.com/questions/22124/luke-2354-how-should-sabbath-dawning-be-interpreted
- https://hermeneutics.stackexchange.com/questions/21512/do-idioms-used-in-the-crucifixion-narrative-resolve-the-3-day-3-night-objectio
- https://hermeneutics.stackexchange.com/questions/8861/time-in-first-century-judaism
- https://hermeneutics.stackexchange.com/questions/22378/historical-evidences-that-the-sabbath-began-at-sunset
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1. Question - a Reference Request

In view of the question : Luke 23:54 - How should "Sabbath Dawning" be Interpreted?

Whether or not Luke is stating that the Sabbath began at dawn, or not - it seems there should be evidence to support either view, so :

Up to, and including, the Second Period Temple, What are the earliest texts and evidences substantiating - thatWhat are the earliest texts and evidences substantiating - that the Jewish Calendar day began at Sunset?


2. Evidences up to and including the the Second Temple Period :

So, not Chrysostom - who may have relied on Rabbinic/Pharasaic authority after the Sadducees had been removed:

Homilies on Matthew (Chrysostom 349-407 CE), Homily 81 - ... he means the day before that feast; for they are accustomed always to reckon the day from the evening ...;

Or, Scriptural Evidence:

If an answer appeals to a supposed "Plain Meaning of Scripture" and has to explain that "plain meaning" - then, it is not a plain meaning. If it is truly "Plain" - then just provide the text, without commentary, flow charts, calendar diagrams, slideshow presentations, etc.

***Related:***
- http://hermeneutics.stackexchange.com/questions/27492/historical-evidence-that-the-jewish-calendar-day-began-at-sunrise
- http://hermeneutics.stackexchange.com/questions/22124/luke-2354-how-should-sabbath-dawning-be-interpreted
- http://hermeneutics.stackexchange.com/questions/21512/do-idioms-used-in-the-crucifixion-narrative-resolve-the-3-day-3-night-objectio
- http://hermeneutics.stackexchange.com/questions/8861/time-in-first-century-judaism
- http://hermeneutics.stackexchange.com/questions/22378/historical-evidences-that-the-sabbath-began-at-sunset

1. Question - a Reference Request

Up to, and including, the Second Period Temple, What are the earliest texts and evidences substantiating - that the Jewish Calendar day began at Sunset?


2. Evidences up to and including the the Second Temple Period :

So, not Chrysostom - who may have relied on Rabbinic/Pharasaic authority after the Sadducees had been removed:

Homilies on Matthew (Chrysostom 349-407 CE), Homily 81 - ... he means the day before that feast; for they are accustomed always to reckon the day from the evening ...;

Or, Scriptural Evidence:

If an answer appeals to a supposed "Plain Meaning of Scripture" and has to explain that "plain meaning" - then, it is not a plain meaning. If it is truly "Plain" - then just provide the text, without commentary, flow charts, calendar diagrams, slideshow presentations, etc.

***Related:***
- http://hermeneutics.stackexchange.com/questions/27492/historical-evidence-that-the-jewish-calendar-day-began-at-sunrise
- http://hermeneutics.stackexchange.com/questions/22124/luke-2354-how-should-sabbath-dawning-be-interpreted
- http://hermeneutics.stackexchange.com/questions/21512/do-idioms-used-in-the-crucifixion-narrative-resolve-the-3-day-3-night-objectio
- http://hermeneutics.stackexchange.com/questions/8861/time-in-first-century-judaism
- http://hermeneutics.stackexchange.com/questions/22378/historical-evidences-that-the-sabbath-began-at-sunset

1. Question - a Reference Request

In view of the question : Luke 23:54 - How should "Sabbath Dawning" be Interpreted?

Whether or not Luke is stating that the Sabbath began at dawn, or not - it seems there should be evidence to support either view, so :

Up to, and including, the Second Period Temple, What are the earliest texts and evidences substantiating - that the Jewish Calendar day began at Sunset?


2. Evidences up to and including the the Second Temple Period :

So, not Chrysostom - who may have relied on Rabbinic/Pharasaic authority after the Sadducees had been removed:

Homilies on Matthew (Chrysostom 349-407 CE), Homily 81 - ... he means the day before that feast; for they are accustomed always to reckon the day from the evening ...;

Or, Scriptural Evidence:

If an answer appeals to a supposed "Plain Meaning of Scripture" and has to explain that "plain meaning" - then, it is not a plain meaning. If it is truly "Plain" - then just provide the text, without commentary, flow charts, calendar diagrams, slideshow presentations, etc.

***Related:***
- http://hermeneutics.stackexchange.com/questions/27492/historical-evidence-that-the-jewish-calendar-day-began-at-sunrise
- http://hermeneutics.stackexchange.com/questions/22124/luke-2354-how-should-sabbath-dawning-be-interpreted
- http://hermeneutics.stackexchange.com/questions/21512/do-idioms-used-in-the-crucifixion-narrative-resolve-the-3-day-3-night-objectio
- http://hermeneutics.stackexchange.com/questions/8861/time-in-first-century-judaism
- http://hermeneutics.stackexchange.com/questions/22378/historical-evidences-that-the-sabbath-began-at-sunset
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- http://hermeneutics.stackexchange.com/questions/8861/time-in-first-century-judaism
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1. Question - a Reference Request

Up to, and including, the Second Period Temple, What are the earliest texts and evidences substantiating - that the Jewish Calendar day began at Sunset?


2. Evidences up to and including the the Second Temple Period :

Any historical evidence regarding the calendar reckoning of ancient Israel - regardless if it is a religious reckoning (Samaritan, Pharasaic, Sadducean, etc), or if it applied to non-Jews in Israel, or imposed legally, (Babylonian, Roman, Halakhic ruling, etc).

Evidences must be before 217 CESo, (before the Mishnah);not Chrysostom - and certainly before 500 CE, (before the Talmud).

Thereby Excluding Chrysostom, who may have relied on recent Talmudic traditionsRabbinic/Pharasaic authority after the Sadducees had been removed:

Homilies on Matthew (Chrysostom 349-407 CE), Homily 81 - ... he means the day before that feast; for they are accustomed always to reckon the day from the evening ...;

Or, Scriptural Evidence:

If an answer appeals to a supposed "Plain Meaning of Scripture" and has to explain that "plain meaning" - then, it is not a plain meaning. If it is truly "Plain" - then just provide the text, without commentary, flow charts, calendar diagrams, slideshow presentations, etc.

***Related:***
- http://hermeneutics.stackexchange.com/questions/27492/historical-evidence-that-the-jewish-calendar-day-began-at-sunrise
- http://hermeneutics.stackexchange.com/questions/22124/luke-2354-how-should-sabbath-dawning-be-interpreted
- http://hermeneutics.stackexchange.com/questions/21512/do-idioms-used-in-the-crucifixion-narrative-resolve-the-3-day-3-night-objectio
- http://hermeneutics.stackexchange.com/questions/8861/time-in-first-century-judaism
- http://hermeneutics.stackexchange.com/questions/22378/historical-evidences-that-the-sabbath-began-at-sunset
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- http://hermeneutics.stackexchange.com/questions/21512/do-idioms-used-in-the-crucifixion-narrative-resolve-the-3-day-3-night-objectio
- http://hermeneutics.stackexchange.com/questions/8861/time-in-first-century-judaism
- http://hermeneutics.stackexchange.com/questions/22378/historical-evidences-that-the-sabbath-began-at-sunset

1. Question - a Reference Request

Up to, and including, the Second Period Temple, What are the earliest texts and evidences substantiating - that the Jewish Calendar day began at Sunset?


2. Evidences up to and including the the Second Temple Period :

Any historical evidence regarding the calendar reckoning of ancient Israel - regardless if it is a religious reckoning (Samaritan, Pharasaic, Sadducean, etc), or if it applied to non-Jews in Israel, or imposed legally, (Babylonian, Roman, Halakhic ruling, etc).

Evidences must be before 217 CE, (before the Mishnah); - and certainly before 500 CE, (before the Talmud).

Thereby Excluding Chrysostom, who may have relied on recent Talmudic traditions:

Homilies on Matthew (Chrysostom 349-407 CE), Homily 81 - ... he means the day before that feast; for they are accustomed always to reckon the day from the evening ...;

Or, Scriptural Evidence:

If an answer appeals to a supposed "Plain Meaning of Scripture" and has to explain that "plain meaning" - then, it is not a plain meaning. If it is truly "Plain" - then just provide the text, without commentary, flow charts, calendar diagrams, slideshow presentations, etc.


1. Question - a Reference Request

Up to, and including, the Second Period Temple, What are the earliest texts and evidences substantiating - that the Jewish Calendar day began at Sunset?


2. Evidences up to and including the the Second Temple Period :

So, not Chrysostom - who may have relied on Rabbinic/Pharasaic authority after the Sadducees had been removed:

Homilies on Matthew (Chrysostom 349-407 CE), Homily 81 - ... he means the day before that feast; for they are accustomed always to reckon the day from the evening ...;

Or, Scriptural Evidence:

If an answer appeals to a supposed "Plain Meaning of Scripture" and has to explain that "plain meaning" - then, it is not a plain meaning. If it is truly "Plain" - then just provide the text, without commentary, flow charts, calendar diagrams, slideshow presentations, etc.

***Related:***
- http://hermeneutics.stackexchange.com/questions/27492/historical-evidence-that-the-jewish-calendar-day-began-at-sunrise
- http://hermeneutics.stackexchange.com/questions/22124/luke-2354-how-should-sabbath-dawning-be-interpreted
- http://hermeneutics.stackexchange.com/questions/21512/do-idioms-used-in-the-crucifixion-narrative-resolve-the-3-day-3-night-objectio
- http://hermeneutics.stackexchange.com/questions/8861/time-in-first-century-judaism
- http://hermeneutics.stackexchange.com/questions/22378/historical-evidences-that-the-sabbath-began-at-sunset
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