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Is there a possibility that in Matthew 5:27-30, Jesus is talking about masturbation?
Yeah, it's possible. I seem remember some ancient commentators interpreted it this way, but I can't remember who. I'm skeptical that it can be proven though, given lack of information in the text.
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How did the martyrs atone for sin in 4 Maccabees 17?
Maccabees is cannon scripture in some churches, but that aside, your answer really doesn't address my question.
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If Jesus is God, how can we make sense of Him calling the Father "my God" in John 20:17?
@RevelationLad I think we both agree on the assignment of the subjects in the verse, but I don't see the justification for your claim that the Son is the Father's God. I see having a God as being about submission and ontological/functional dependency. But does the Father submit to and depend on the Son? What is the justification?
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If Jesus is God, how can we make sense of Him calling the Father "my God" in John 20:17?
@RevelationLad I think the verse you cite shows that the Father is the Son's God, but does not show that the Son is the Father's God. The Father says: "therefore God (the son), your God (me), has anointed you...". The Father calls the son 'God' but not 'his (the father) God'
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If Jesus is God, how can we make sense of Him calling the Father "my God" in John 20:17?
@BenCrowell I don't understand hebrew so my information comes from secondary sources, however this site says the 'l' prefix means 'as', i.e 'as God'. bib.irr.org/was-moses-god-exodus-416-and-71. I'll update my answer accordingly.
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If Jesus is God, how can we make sense of Him calling the Father "my God" in John 20:17?
My personal opinion is that saying 'Jesus is God' means something different to 'the Father is God', however since your OP stipulates that we assume they both mean the same thing, I've tried to avoid giving my opinion in my answer, and instead answer it within the framework of your stated assumption. I updated my answer to address whether Jesus is YHWH.
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If Jesus is God, how can we make sense of Him calling the Father "my God" in John 20:17?
Thanks for the clarification. I updated my response to address that. My view is that it's intended to refer to YHWH the supreme being as per what I take to be the Jewish understanding at the time.