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The apostle Paul's first letter to the church in Thessalonica.

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Why is Paul adamant about the second coming of Christ during his lifetime but it didn't happen?

Some background about my question, I have a Muslim friend who really loves and studies theology and when discussing Christianity. He asked me how there seems to be incongruencies and he pointed out 1 ...
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Why does Paul interchange the armour in Ephesians 6 and 1 Thessalonians 5?

. When advising the church at Ephesus the apostle Paul tells them to put on the breastplate of righteousness Name KJV Ephesians 6 : 14 Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and ...
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What is the wrath referred to in 1 Thessalonians 2:16?

For you, brothers and sisters, became imitators of the churches of God in Christ Jesus that are in Judea, for you suffered the same things from your own compatriots as they did from the Jews, who ...
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Is 1 Thessalonians 3:11 an example of Granville Sharp's rule?

Now may our God and Father himself, and our Lord Jesus, direct our way to you (1 Thessalonians 3:11 ESV) αὐτὸς δὲ ὁ θεὸς καὶ πατὴρ ἡμῶν καὶ ὁ κύριος ἡμῶν Ἰησοῦς κατευθύναι τὴν ὁδὸν ἡμῶν πρὸς ὑμᾶς The ...
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1 Thess 5:9 vs Romans 5:9 - is this the same wrath?

9For God has not destined us for wrath, but to obtain salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ, This passage talks about day of the Lord so the "wrath" is God's wrath. Based on the text, can ...
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What is the significance of the Greek "ὅτι" as used in the original text of 1 Thessalonians 5:2?

1 Thessalonians 5:1-2 reads as follows: Περὶ δὲ τῶν χρόνων καὶ τῶν καιρῶν, ἀδελφοί, οὐ χρείαν ἔχετε ὑμῖν γράφεσθαι, αὐτοὶ γὰρ ἀκριβῶς οἴδατε ὅτι ἡμέρα κυρίου ὡς κλέπτης ἐν νυκτὶ οὕτως ἔρχεται. Or, ...
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Does 1 Thessalonians 5:10 rule out annihilism?

An annihilist would affirm that "those who sleep" equals "those who die" and that those who die are both dead physically and non-existent as to consciousness. As I understand the ...
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Which Thessalonian epistle came first?

The text of Paul's letters to the Thessalonians does not identify one as "first" and the other as "second". External evidence None of the quotations of the epistles by the ...
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Do 1 Thess. 4:16-17 (coming of the Lord in the air with His "caught up" saints) & Rev 6:9-11 (during the 5th seal) describe the same event?

From 1 Thess. 4: 16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 17 Then we which ...
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Are there two separate "coming" (parousia, 3952) events? [closed]

1Th 4:15-17 describes "the coming (parousia, 3952) of the Lord" v15 "Himself with the voice of an archangel and with the trumpet of God." v16 And the dead and alive "shall be ...
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Do only believers hear the"shout" of the Lord?

Do only "caught up" (726) 1Th 4:16 believers (dead and alive) v17 hear (but not see) the "shout" (keleusma, 2752); "the voice (phone, 5456) of an archangel (arche, 746)"; ...
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Could 1 Thessalonians 1:1 "God the Father" imply another Person who is: "God the Son"? [closed]

1 Thessalonians 1:1; 1 Paul, and Silvanus, and Timotheus, unto the church of the Thessalonians which is in God the Father and in the Lord Jesus Christ: Grace be unto you, and peace, from God our ...
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To whom do the words "an archangel's voice" refer to in 1 Thessalonians 4:16?

1 Thessalonians 4:16 YLT because the Lord himself, in a shout, in the voice of a chief-messenger, and in the trump of God, shall come down from heaven, and the dead in Christ shall rise first, Who is ...
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Does Paul put the Thessalonians under oath in 1 Thessalonians 5:27?

1 Thessalonians 5:27 reads (NKJV): I charge you by the Lord that this epistle be read to all the holy brethren. According to Albert Barnes, the Greek of the expression in bold above "is ...
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Why does "The Judgment" before God appear to be missing in 1 Thessalonians 4:17 (cf. 2 Cor. 5:10)?

In the Letter to the Thessalonians, we are told: 1 Thessalonians 4:16: "For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet of God, ...
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Do we go up or down after being caught up in 1 Thessalonians 4:17?

1 Thessalonians 4: 16 For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. ...
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What prophecies was Paul referring to when he said "do not despise prophecies" in 1 Thessalonians 5:20?

1 Thessalonians 5:19-22 (ESV): 19 Do not quench the Spirit. 20 Do not despise prophecies, 21 but test everything; hold fast what is good. 22 Abstain from every form of evil. What prophecies was Paul ...
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Are all followers of Christ guaranteed to achieve complete sanctification or not? 1 Thessalonians 5:23-24 vs. 2 Peter 2:20-22

1 Thessalonians 5:23-24 (ESV): 23 Now may the God of peace himself sanctify you completely, and may your whole spirit and soul and body be kept blameless at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. 24 He ...
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What sin is 1 Thessalonians 4:3-8 about?

1 Thessalonians 4:3–8 (BE:NT): 3 This is God’s will, you see: he wants you to be holy, to keep well away from fornication. 4 Each of you should know how to control your own body in holiness and honour,...
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Are humans made of body + spirit or body + soul + spirit? Genesis 2:7 & Ecclesiastes 12:5-7 vs 1 Thessalonians 5:23 [closed]

Genesis 2:7 gives the idea that a human being is the combination of a physical body (from dust) and a spirit (God's breath of life): 7 then the LORD God formed the man of dust from the ground and ...
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What does "with the voice of the archangel" mean in 1 Thessalonians 4:16?

1 Thessalonians 4:16 ASV For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven, with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first; What does &...
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How to understand God's testing of our hearts (1 Thessalonians 2:4) in light of His omniscience?

1 Thessalonians 2:3-4 (ESV): 3 For our appeal does not spring from error or impurity or any attempt to deceive, 4 but just as we have been approved by God to be entrusted with the gospel, so we speak,...
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What does "taught by God" mean in 1 Thessalonians 4:9?

1 Thessalonians 4:9 New International Version Now about your love for one another we do not need to write to you, for you yourselves have been taught by God to love each other.
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1 Thessalonians 4:16, definite or indefinite article with "archangel"?

1 Thessalonians 4:16 (DRB): For the Lord himself shall come down from heaven with commandment, and with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God: and the dead who are in Christ, shall ...
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Could The Mark of The Beast simply be what a Man is made of? [closed]

There's something I've been studying up on and was curious what this community might have to say about it. According to Revelation 13:18 the number of The Beast is 666 and when looking into certain ...
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1 Peter 2:11, does Peter mean by (soul) (the spirit)?

1 Peter 2:11 (DRB): Dearly beloved, I beseech you as strangers and pilgrims, to refrain yourselves from carnal desires which war against the soul, It's clear that the Bible distinguishes between (...
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In Colossians 3:5, how is greed (covetousness) an Idolatry?

Colossians 3:5 (KJV): Mortify therefore your members which are upon the earth; fornication, uncleanness, inordinate affection, evil concupiscence, and covetousness, which is idolatry: ...
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What is the proper translation of the verb “pisteuo” in 1 Thessalonians 4:14?

In 1 Thes. 4:14, why is the word pisteuo translated as “we believe?” Could it be translated as “they believe,” where “they” refers to those who sleep? 1Th 4:14 For if we believe that Jesus ...
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In 1 Thessalonians 1:10 what does it mean to "wait for his son from heaven"?

Paul commends the Thessalonians for being diligent: [1Th 1:3 NLT] (3) As we pray to our God and Father about you, we think of your faithful work, your loving deeds, and the enduring hope you have ...
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How can we harmonise 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 and Hebrews 9 :27?

It seems according to Paul some will meet Christ without tasting death 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 NASB [16]For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel ...
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In 1 Thessalonian 2:13 what does Paul mean by "logos"?

1Th 2:13 KJV - 13 For this cause also thank we God without ceasing, because, when ye received the word of God which ye heard of us, ye received it not as the word of men, but as it is in truth, the ...
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Who are the saints / holy ones in 1 Thessalonians 3:13 and 2 Thessalonians 1:3–12?

In June 2017 and May 2018, I had email exchanges with Prof. Larry W. Hurtado and Dean Craig C. Hill (two high-caliber NT scholars) about the second coming, the rapture and, more specifically, the ...
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1 Thessalonians 4:3 grammatical analysis: accusative or nominative?

I need a help regarding a grammatical issue in 1 Thessalonians 4:3: τοῦτο γάρ ἐστιν θέλημα τοῦ θεοῦ ὁ ἁγιασμὸς ὑμῶν ἀπέχεσθαι ὑμᾶς ἀπὸ τῆς "For this is the will of God, even your sanctification, ...
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In Ephesians 2:6 is Paul suggesting that the rapture of 2 Thessalonians 2:17 is a spiritual event?

In Ephesians Paul speaks of resurrection in "spiritual" term: [Eph 2:6 NLT] 6 For he raised us from the dead along with Christ and seated us with him in the heavenly realms because we are united ...
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In 2 Timothy 4:6-8 is Paul speaking of his death or of his "departure" per 1 Thessalonians 4:17)?

[2Ti 4:6-8 CSB] 6 For I am already being poured out as a drink offering, and the time for my departure is close. 7 I have fought the good fight, I have finished the race, I have kept the faith. 8 ...
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Is 1 Thessalonians 4:14-18 alluding to Psalm 47:5?

In Paul's accounting of the ordering of the resurrection he mentions a few things that seem to be an allusion to Psalm 47:5: [1Th 4:14-18 KJV] 14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, ...
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In 1 Thessalonians 4:17 does "ἅμα σὺν αὐτοῖς" indicate that the "dead" and Paul ascend simultaneously?

In the interlinear of the verse there are few words that I am hoping will indicate whether or not Paul's rapture is simultaneous with the rising of the dead (so that as the others ascend he is swept ...
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Is 1Thess 1:10 a piece of early christian poetry?

I was reading a peroratio of 1Thess (5:16-22) recently and I had some feeling of rhytmicity there. After closer look the issue seems to be not so simple so I gave up with it for a moment. However in ...
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How can we understand 1 Thessalonians 5:1-4?

(KJV) 1 Thessalonians 5:1-4 1 But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you. 2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in ...
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What afflictions did the church in Thessalonica suffer?

(KJV)1 Thessalonians 1:6 And ye became followers of us, and of the Lord, having received the word in much affliction, with joy of the Holy Ghost: (KJV)1 Thessalonians 2:14 For ye, brethren, ...
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Discerning or evaluating prophesies

1 Corinthians 14:29 NKJV) 29 Let two or three prophets speak, and let the others judge. 1 Thessalonians 5:19-22 (NKJV) 19 Do not quench the Spirit. 20 Do not despise prophecies. 21 Test all ...
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Is 1 Thessalonians 4:15-16 a failed prophecy?

I would like to ask about this text where Paul writes about the Lord returning: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: ...
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In 1 Thessalonians 4:16, does «ἐν Χριστῷ» modify «οἱ νεκροὶ» or «ἀναστήσονται»?

In 1 Thes. 4:16, it is written, 16 For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. ...
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What does it mean "to quench" in 1 Thessalonians 5:19?

In 1 Thessalonians 5:19 we read: Quench not the Spirit. (KJV) According to Strong's, "Quench" is the word 4570 σβέννυμι, which means "I extinguish, quench, I suppress, thwart." The dictionary ...
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What is the best understanding of 'sober' (nephomen) in 1 Th 5:6 and 1 Th 5:8?

Someone has posed to me that 'sober' in 1 Th 5:6-8 is nephomen, root nepho, which they say means to be without ANY alcohol. They are using this verse to base their understanding that any alcohol is ...
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Which idea for εἶδος is intended in 1 Thess 5:22?

Background In 1 Thessalonians 5:22, the Greek reads (no major textual variations): ἀπὸ παντὸς εἴδους πονηροῦ ἀπέχεσθε The word εἶδος (here in the singular genitive neuter εἴδους) is translated ...
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In John 6:45, what is the meaning of «διδακτοὶ τοῦ θεοῦ»?

In John 6:45, it is written, ΜΕʹ ἔστιν γεγραμμένον ἐν τοῖς προφήταις Καὶ ἔσονται πάντες διδακτοὶ τοῦ θεοῦ πᾶς οὖν ὁ ἀκούσας παρὰ τοῦ πατρὸς καὶ μαθὼν ἔρχεται πρὸς με TR, 1550 The Lord Jesus Christ ...
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What kind of event is being depicted in 1 Thessalonians 4:17?

In 1 Thessalonians 4:17, Paul writes that, "We who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air." Is this describing what some call a "...
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1st Thessalonians 4:13-14: "those who sleep in Jesus"

Is there any possibility that "those who sleep in Jesus" that Paul is talking about in 1st Thessalonians 4:13-14 are the believers from the Old Testament that had never heard of Jesus?: But I ...
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Does 1 Thess 2:16 imply a dating of the letter near the destruction of 70AD?

The context of the passage, ~vss.14-16, concerns the suffering of the churches, including the Thessalonians, and particularly the Jewish persecutors/persecution of Christ's people. The end of vs.16, ...
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