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What is the source and reasoning from Law of Moses that justifies the linguistic disassociation away from a Wordly language into a Spiritual language?

(Definitions) Worldly: literal, predefined words, common knowledge

Spiritual: symbolic, mysterious, and open to interpretation

Law of Moses: first five books of the Old Testament, the Torah. Specifically as Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, Deuteronomy

Example: blood

The Logos does not meet the specific criteria of the question.

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  • Does this answer your question? What is hermeneutics?
    – Anne
    Commented Apr 9 at 12:05
  • No. I’m suggesting that the Ten Commandments and Law of Moses were the first written texts of the Israelites. From there it was written backwards to get to Genesis 1 as being the reasoning for the Ten Commandments and Law of Moses. The origin of hermeneutics is the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil. That is where all basis and justification for law comes from within Torah and Judaism, and later Christianity and later Islam. That is the purpose of law; to distinguish good and evil.
    – user64483
    Commented Apr 9 at 14:55

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The first five books of the Hebrew Scriptures were all written by Moses under the inspiration of God's Holy Spirit. He used words common to all the people back then, and wrote about actual events which happened before he was born, so knowledge of those events came down through the centuries from the first couple (Adam and Eve) and their offspring. By the time Noah was instructed by God to build an ark, that history was known to him, and so it was then passed down to his linen of descent, through to Abraham, his descendants and then Moses.

Hermeneutics is a word derived from the Greek hermeneutikos (hermeneuo interpret). It means "Of interpretation, esp. of Scripture."

Moses himself wrote about God's instructions, his laws, his requirements for building things to do with worship etc. As the example of the word 'blood' is requested, Moses wrote about literal blood, and also the symbolism of blood as conveyed to him by God. This is seen, for instance, in Genesis 9:4-6 where the symbolic significance of blood is stated by God with regard to his requirement for animals that are killed to have their blood poured out on to the ground, to symbolise the sanctity of God-given life. It must not be eaten in food or drunk. Even animals that kill humans will be held to account by God! Those are massively hermeneutical points.

When Moses wrote about animal sacrifices in worship of God, there was great symbolism involved in the procedures, in sprinkling blood on the altar etc, in the clothing of the priests, in washing rituals. There we see combined literal 'things' that God says have spiritual meaning. The Scriptures unwrap such hermeneutical meanings for those open to examining them.

There are a huge number of mysterious events recorded in the first five books of the Hebrew scriptures - Zipporah and Moses re. circumcision, for instance; the angels with the flaming sword barring the way back to Eden for the first couple. I haven't got all day so I will only mention those two highly symbolic events that were written as being real - literal - while also requiring in-depth examination to get to the bottom of their spiritual meaning.

As for "the Logos" - that is a Greek word for 'word', so why this should be included in a question about the first five Hebrew books of Scripture is beyond me.

Anyone who reads the Holy Scriptures without understanding there is a worldly language and a spiritual language, is going to have only a historical record that has no significance for understanding how God relates to us after 70 B.C. right down to this day. Pardon me if I have misunderstood your question, but that's all I could make of it.

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  • +1. Good assessment.
    – Jason_
    Commented Apr 7 at 18:50
  • Can you define sanctity to reason that God-given life has sanctity? I argue that “the sanctity of God given life” is an oxymoron. Sanctity: the quality of being Holy. Holy: without sin and the capability of sinning (God). Man cannot be Holy. Genesis 8:21 “Never again will I curse the ground because of humans, even though[a] every inclination of the human heart is evil from childhood. The sanctity of God given life is a recent Protestant invention. Protestants also contradict the concept by the action of infant baptism.
    – user64483
    Commented Apr 7 at 19:55
  • I disagree that blood has symbolic meaning in the context of animal sacrifice. There’s literally no other means possible to eat and cook meat that does not contain the blood. Therefore the blood must be offered to the ground during the butchering process. There’s no other place the blood can go unless bleeding it onto another animal, person, or smearing it on the body. That Abel’s blood cried out to God, Genesis 4:10 is a highly possible symbolic example. So then, does an animals blood have the capability of such?
    – user64483
    Commented Apr 7 at 20:09
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    @Roamer, Current scholarship no longer denies that Yeshua existed, was crucified, and even rose from the dead (see Gary Habermas for the latest). There's simply too much evidence, including hostile witnesses. Real blood was involved. This is exactly what grossed out the Greeks and the Gnostics--that the Logos became flesh!
    – Dieter
    Commented Apr 7 at 21:18
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    @Roamer I did wonder if this was a trap Q (your admission) but I try to think the best of people. Well, you may not realise, but this site wants honest enquiries seeking for hermeneutic answers to specific textual points. It often removes arguments in comments, for this site is not like most othes. If you disagree with my answer, you can down-vote it. I certainly won’t look for the Green Tick now, but no offense taken! And I trust you will understand why I won’t abuse comments with arguing about your objections.
    – Anne
    Commented Apr 8 at 9:17
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Easy. The Logos predated Torah that was given to Moses.

In the beginning was the Word [Logos], and the Word [Logos] was with God, and the Word [Logos] was God. He was in the beginning with God. All things were made through him, and without him was not any thing made that was made. In him was life, and the life was the light of men. The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it. John 1:1-5 ESV

In the beginning [time], God created the heavens [space] and the earth [matter] . . . And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light. – Genesis 1:1,3 ESV

The Logos preceded and caused the beginning, and In the beginning preceded Torah.

The spiritual language of the unseen is the fundamental reality behind the tangible. Science has demonstrated this to us.

Not convinced?

Experiments in quantum mechanics have conclusively demonstrated (to about 10 parts per billion or less) that purely mathematical probability waves interact with each other (aka interference) and with observation/measurement that can result in the collapse of the wavefunction (ψ).

Niels Bohr, who was awarded the 1922 Nobel Prize in physics for his application of quantum theory to atomic and molecular structure, expressed it this way:

"Everything we call real is made up of things that cannot be regarded as real. If quantum mechanics hasn’t profoundly shocked you, you haven’t understood it yet."

More recently, Vlatko Vedral, Professor of Physics at the University of Oxford, and CQT (Centre for Quantum Technologies) at the National University of Singapore, and a Fellow of Wolfson College, and a recognized leader in the field of quantum mechanics, expressed it as follows:

“The most fundamental definition of reality is not matter or energy, but information––and it is the processing of information that lies at the root of all physical, biological, economic, and social phenomena.”

For example, fusion in the sun, stellar nucleosynthesis, functions as a result of quantum tunneling converting hydrogen nuclei into helium nuclei, releasing massive quantities of heat and light, which we call sunlight (and starlight).

As our dear brother Paul stated it to the church at Corinth,

. . . as we look not to the things that are seen but to the things that are unseen. For the things that are seen are transient, but the things that are unseen are eternal. – 2 Corinthians 4:18 ESV

And as our dear brother John stated it in one of his letters:

This is he who came by water and blood—Jesus Christ; not by the water only but by the water and the blood. And the Spirit is the one who testifies, because the Spirit is the truth. For there are three that testify: the Spirit and the water and the blood; and these three agree. 1 John 5:6-8 ESV

Thus, "spiritual" reality supersedes and is more fundamental than tangible, physical reality.

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  • No, the Jews had the same reasoning, the Torah was the word of God, and therefore the Torah is the Logos.
    – user64483
    Commented Apr 7 at 20:12
  • As far as I know the wave function is only a mathematical convention. It is not used to actually describe the hypostases of reality.
    – user64483
    Commented Apr 7 at 20:19
  • Torah was given to Moses, while the Logos existed at creation, before Torah was given. Ultimately, Torah was a result of the fall.
    – Dieter
    Commented Apr 7 at 21:05
  • The wavefunction is a probabilistic effect regardless of the mathematics used to compute it. The wavefunction can actually interact with itself, which is why a single electron passing through a double slit produces an interference pattern unless a slit is observed (quantum erasure describes the collapse of the wave function even backward in time). Quantum tunneling is also not a mathematical convention. It enables the sun to shine and limits the miniaturization of electronics when a particle vanishes from one location in space-time and instantly reappears in another location in space-time.
    – Dieter
    Commented Apr 7 at 21:09
  • I’m still trying to solve the (N) and 2 body problem of gravitation in Newtonian physics and General Relativity. I have no idea how to measure for numbers within a quantum mechanics equation, only word description which is something I haven’t thought about much for several years now.
    – user64483
    Commented Apr 7 at 21:51