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Being quite conversant with the scriptures, Jesus knew the name of the God (father) of Israel from (Deut 32:8,9) and that this God did send serpents among his children when they complained about food (Num 21:5,6).

Can the father of Deut 32:9 be likened to the father of Luke 11:11 or to that of 11:13? Since throughout the gospels, Jesus never used the proper name of God (Yahweh, Jehovah, etc.) only the title Father, to whom did he refer in either case?

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    – agarza
    Commented Dec 11, 2023 at 14:53
  • Do you mean that Jesus never said "God"? I do not understand this question.
    – Dottard
    Commented Dec 11, 2023 at 19:38
  • What is your question?
    – user33515
    Commented Dec 12, 2023 at 13:01
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    Luke 11.11 is not about which god, but an example of a father. The Num 21:5,6 example shows punishment due to unbelief. Deut 32:9 relation about allotting portion is not clear. Jesus means that all fathers give food for their children. You are going beyond the nature of this sentence if you compare it with God's punishment on sinners. or not providing food or rain for his people all the time.
    – Michael16
    Commented Dec 15, 2023 at 11:49
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    - Michael16, I consider that a people with a cloud of fire over their heads every night would have acted out of hunger, thirst and frustration ( over the manna) than unbelief. Jesus is quite versed in the scriptures and I believe that there is always a link of his statements to the scriptures ...
    – Omowright
    Commented Dec 15, 2023 at 12:11

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In Luke 11:11, the 'father' refers to the earthly father of a family. Jesus does not use the term 'father' allegorically to represent the Lord, rather, He emphasizes a contrast between the two.

Luke 11:13 NIV

If you then, though you are evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father in heaven give the Holy Spirit to those who ask him!”

In Luke 11:13, Jesus further elaborates on this contrast. When even an earthly father who may be imperfect or evil, provide good things for his children, the heavenly Father is certain to give the very best to whose who 'ask' him. The term 'ask', means 'pray', affirming Jesus' promise in Luke 11:9-10;

9 “So I say to you: Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you. 10 For everyone who asks receives; the one who seeks finds; and to the one who knocks, the door will be opened. (NIV)

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  • The God of Abraham (Gen 17: 1) did not promise life (as in resurrection) or holy spirit. This is my confusion. The father to whom Jesus refers sends his spirit, the recipients of which, will say, as he does, Father (Abba) (Gal 4: 6).
    – Omowright
    Commented Dec 15, 2023 at 11:50
  • @Omowright - among the promises to Abraham, one of them is the land his offspring will be given (Gen 12:7, 13:15, 24:7). Paul elaborate this offspring is Jesus (Gal 3:16). Abraham might have understood the land is lateral, which is the earthly Jerusalem. Paul told the church they should look upon the heavenly Jerusalem (Gal 4:26), a city that the Lord prepared (Heb 11:16, 12:22). The heavenly Jerusalem represents life, as God will dwell with them (Rev 21:3), no more tear and no more death (Rev 21:4). Inside the city there is 'river of the water of life' and 'tree of life' (Rev 22:1-2). Commented Dec 15, 2023 at 14:30

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