How do we reconcile Jesus' appearance in the Luke & John passages relating to Thomas:
- Matt 27 - Judas killed himself before Jesus' resurrection
- Luke 24 - Jesus met the rest of the disciples eleven & 51) Jesus ascended to heaven on the same day
- John 20 - Thomas story eight days later - but Jesus has already seen Thomas in Luke
If Judas killed himself already, there are only 11 disciples left, and Luke says Jesus met the eleven (include Thomas) & Jesus ascended to heaven on the day. Yet eight days later we have the Thomas story in John.
3 Then Judas, who betrayed him, when he saw that he was condemned, repented himself, and brought back the thirty pieces of silver to the chief priests and elders, 4 saying, I have sinned in that I betrayed innocent blood. But they said, What is that to us? see thou to it. 5 And he cast down the pieces of silver into the sanctuary, and departed; and he went away and hanged himself.
Luke 24:33-36 & 51 (ASV)
33 And they rose up that very hour, and returned to Jerusalem, and found the eleven gathered together, and them that were with them, 34 saying, The Lord is risen indeed, and hath appeared to Simon. 35 And they rehearsed the things that happened in the way, and how he was known of them in the breaking of the bread. 36 And as they spake these things, he himself stood in the midst of them, and saith unto them, Peace be unto you.
51 And it came to pass, while he blessed them, he parted from them, and was carried up into heaven.
24 But Thomas, one of the twelve, called Didymus, was not with them when Jesus came. 25 The other disciples therefore said unto him, We have seen the Lord. But he said unto them, Except I shall see in his hands the print of the nails, and put my finger into the print of the nails, and put my hand into his side, I will not believe. 26 And after eight days again his disciples were within, and Thomas with them. Jesus cometh, the doors being shut, and stood in the midst, and said, Peace be unto you.
John is the only one that mentions this story Clearly, one passage has to be wrong.
Luke 24:40 And when he had said this, he showed them his hands and his feet. - it is astonishing that Luke does not even mention anything about Jesus marks / injuries or any one else.
Twelve - some say it is a general term used for the Group and not a specific count - there doesn’t appear to be any passage to support this. if anything the passages show the opposite, some examples;
John 20:24 - But Thomas, one of the twelve, called Didymus, was not with them when Jesus came.
Matthew 26:14 - Then one of the twelve, named Judas Iscariot, went to the chief priests
Matthew 26:47 While He was still speaking, behold, Judas, one of the twelve, came up accompanied by a large crowd with swords and clubs, who came from the chief priests and elders of the people.
Mark 14:43 Immediately while He was still speaking, Judas, one of the twelve, *came up accompanied by a crowd with swords and clubs, who were from the chief priests and the scribes and the elders.
Luke 22:3 And Satan entered into Judas who was called Iscariot, belonging to the number of the twelve.
Luke 22:47 While He was still speaking, behold, a crowd came, and the one called Judas, one of the twelve, was preceding them; and he approached Jesus to kiss Him.
1 Corinthians 15:5 and that He appeared to Cephas, then to the twelve.
Finally - why would Thomas not believe when in - Matt 10:7-8 he and the disciples had the power to raise the dead. "As you go, proclaim this message: ‘The kingdom of heaven has come near.’ 8 Heal the sick, raise the dead, cleanse those who have leprosy, drive out demons. Freely you have received; freely give."