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Analyzing ( Jeremiah 29:8 ) rejection of other prophets prophecy by keeping Jeremiah 28 & Jeremiah 29 in context
I came across the following webpage about different types of Dreams and Visions
In the aforementioned webpage, I wanted to quote the following paragraph:
First, some dreams are a result of what has been on a person’s mind or stored in the subconscious. These can be memories, past events, repressed desires, and unfulfilled hopes. Isaiah says, “A hungry person dreams of eating but wakes up still hungry” (Isaiah 29:8). And Solomon writes, “Too much activity gives you restless dreams” (Ecclesiastes 5:3).
New American Standard Bible 1995
6 From the Lord of hosts you will be punished with thunder and earthquake and loud noise, With whirlwind and tempest and the flame of a consuming fire. 7 And the multitude of all the nations who wage war against [a]Ariel, Even all who wage war against her and her stronghold, and who distress her, Will be like a dream, a vision of the night. 8 It will be as when a hungry man dreams— And behold, he is eating; But when he awakens, his [b]hunger is not satisfied, Or as when a thirsty man dreams— And behold, he is drinking, But when he awakens, behold, he is faint And his [c]thirst is not quenched. Thus the multitude of all the nations will be Who wage war against Mount Zion.
9 Be delayed and wait, Blind yourselves and be blind; They become drunk, but not with wine, They stagger, but not with strong drink. 10 For the Lord has poured over you a spirit of deep sleep, He has shut your eyes, the prophets; And He has covered your heads, the seers.
New American Standard Bible 1995
5 [a]Guard your steps as you go to the house of God and draw near to listen rather than to offer the sacrifice of fools; for they do not know they are doing evil. 2 [b]Do not be hasty [c]in word or [d]impulsive in thought to bring up a matter in the presence of God. For God is in heaven and you are on the earth; therefore let your words be few. 3 For the dream comes through much [e]effort and the voice of a fool through many words.
4 When you make a vow to God, do not be late in paying it; for He takes no delight in fools. Pay what you vow!
The https://africa.thegospelcoalition.org/article/are-dreams-and-visions-messages-from-god-africa-study-bible/ webpage states that (Isaiah 29:8) and (Ecclesiastes 5:3) refer to dreams and visions associated with Our own subconsciousness (which, correct me if I'm wrong, I believe are fleshly desires/feelings).
In any case, I'd like other people's views and interpretations of said bible scriptures. Do the (Isaiah 29:7-9) and (Ecclesiastes 5:3) bible verses relate to dreams and visions associated with fleshly desires as opposed to Godly?
( Interesting Side Note: In (reference: https://www.zoranpaunovich.com/soul-supernatural-dreams/ ) website, soul dreams are closely associated with what we called fleshly dreams in our postings, and spiritual dreams are Godly dreams.
(Quote from said reference): 'Derek Prince once said, “The only instrument sharp enough and sensitive enough to distinguish between the spiritual and the soulish is the Word of God. This is why correct discernment is possible only for Christians who have become mature through regular feeding on the ‘solid food’ of Scripture. The failure to distinguish between the spiritual and the soulish can have disastrous consequences.”'
which is closely based on:
For the word of God is living and active and sharper than any two-edged sword, and piercing as far as the division of soul and spirit, of both joints and marrow, and able to judge the thoughts and intentions of the heart. )