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Judges 9:13 "But the vine answered, 'Should I give up my wine, which cheers both gods and humans, to hold sway over the trees?'

I can see that it cheers humans but gods! Does wine cheer gods?

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  • There is considerable variance among translations as to whether the rendering should be 'both God and man' or 'gods and men'. The question needs an Hebrew expert to comment on the original, I would suggest. – Nigel J May 10 at 14:24
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Let's see the context. Judges 9:

7When Jotham was told about this, he climbed up on the top of Mount Gerizim and shouted to them, “Listen to me, citizens of Shechem, so that God may listen to you. 8One day the trees went out to anoint a king for themselves. They said to the olive tree, ‘Be our king.’

9“But the olive tree answered, ‘Should I give up my oil, by which both gods and humans are honored, to hold sway over the trees?’

10“Next, the trees said to the fig tree, ‘Come and be our king.’

11“But the fig tree replied, ‘Should I give up my fruit, so good and sweet, to hold sway over the trees?’

12“Then the trees said to the vine, ‘Come and be our king.’

13“But the vine answered, ‘Should I give up my wine, which cheers both gods and humans, to hold sway over the trees?’

14“Finally all the trees said to the thornbush, ‘Come and be our king.’

15“The thornbush said to the trees, ‘If you really want to anoint me king over you, come and take refuge in my shade; but if not, then let fire come out of the thornbush and consume the cedars of Lebanon!’

The speaker was Jotham. The audience was the idolatrous citizens of Shechem. The gods and humans were part of a parable.

In the heathen sacrifices and offerings, some did believe the gods consumed and enjoyed the wine. E.g., the Greek gods partook ambrosia and nectar.

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    Yes, and it's important to note that Jotham was not a prophet. – Polyhat May 9 at 18:55
  • That’s a modern take on the historical events – Nihil Sine Deo May 9 at 19:15

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