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Colossians 2:18-23; ASV:

  1. Let no man rob you of your prize by a voluntary humility and worshipping of the angels, dwelling in the things which he hath seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind, 19. and not holding fast the Head, from whom all the body, being supplied and knit together through the joints and bands, increasing with the increase of God. 20. If ye died with Christ from the rudiments of the world, why, as though living in the world, do ye subject yourselves to ordinances, 21. Handle not, nor taste, nor touch 22. (all which things are to perish with the using), after the precepts and doctrines of men? 23. Which things have indeed a show of wisdom in will-worship, and humility, and severity to the body; {cf15i but are} not of any value against the indulgence of the flesh.

The question is so simple;

Are the angels, according to Colossians, the principles of the world?, The rudiments of the world?

Those who have the shape of godliness but lack honest truthfulness.

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  • No - the two are unrelated. – Dottard Mar 12 at 21:27
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Col 2:18 says this [NASB]:

Take care that no one keeps defrauding you of your prize by delighting in humility and the worship of the angels, taking his stand on visions he has seen, inflated without cause by his fleshly mind

This is discussing false religious rites based on false divine revelation of people and false spirits (1 John 4:1-3).

by contrast, Col 1:20-22 says this:

If you have died with Christ to the elementary principles of the world, why, as if you were living in the world, do you submit yourself to decrees, such as, “Do not handle, do not taste, do not touch!” (which all refer to things destined to perish with use)—in accordance with the commandments and teachings of man?

This verse explains what it means - false religion based on useless and meaningless rites and ceremonies.

Thus, two different false religions are in view - one based on false view of the spiritual world and the other based on a false view of religions rites.

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  • Look Colossians 2:8 (Philosophy after the tradition of the men, after the rudiments of the world), then Look the last verse in the chapter, Colossians 2:23 (have the appearance of wisdom), i.e: false wisdom. – salah Mar 12 at 22:24
  • Look Colossians 2:8 (Philosophy after the tradition of the men, after the rudiments of the world), then Look the last verse in the chapter, Colossians 2:23 (have the appearance of wisdom), i.e: false wisdom. The matter is that there are two types of angels: real angels, unreal (false) angels. real angels=holy angels=angels of Jesus and the Father. Unreal angels=unholy angels=angels of Satan=principles of the world. – salah Mar 12 at 22:30
  • @salah - I understand this but the connection you make between angels and rudiments is absent in Scripture – Dottard Mar 12 at 22:37
  • the scripture leaves an area for exegesis. I mean: angels=Satan angels. I hope you get what I mean. – salah Mar 12 at 23:12
  • Look Zephaniah 1:3, Matthew 13:41. From Zephaniah and Matthew there are two types of Satan's Sons: 1- stumbling makers=unholy angels=Satan angels=who seem holy but they actually have demonic nature. 2- iniquity makers like adulterers, fornicators...etc. Both 1 and 2 are Sons of Satan. – salah Mar 13 at 1:05

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