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Revelation 3:12 recorded (ESV)

"the one who conquers I will make him a pillar in the trample of my God. Never shall he go out of it, and I will write on him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, the new Jerusalem, which come down from my God out of heaven and my own new name"

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There can be little doubt that when Jesus says (as in this passage) "my God" He is referring to God the Father. There are numerous instances of this, eg, Matt 27:46, Mark 15:34, John 20:17, Heb 10:7, Rev 2:7, 3:2, etc.

We should not be surprised at this. In Heb 1:8, 9, Jesus is also addressed by the Father (speaking) as God as well:

But about the Son He says: “Your throne, O God, endures forever and ever, and justice is the scepter of Your kingdom. You have loved righteousness and hated wickedness; therefore God, Your God, has anointed You above Your companions with the oil of joy.

Jesus is also called "my God" by people in the NT such as: Thomas, John 20:28; Paul, Titus 2:13; Peter 2 peter 1:1, etc. See also Matt 1:23

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Jesus is referring to his Father and God, the Almighty, the Most High God and creator of all that is, Yahweh. Some believe Jesus is also God and this requires various ideas to make the bible work to support such a construct, but must ignore such verses (of which there are many) as Rev 3:12

There are many theories about why Jesus - who is alleged to be the eternal, immortal God himself as, 'God the Son', has a God. Some may quote John 20:28; Titus 2:13; 2 Peter 1:1, Matt 1:23 but they are readily explained better in the context of Jesus being a man who God sent into the world. Some are plainly misquoted/misinterpreted.

Let's look at some of these 'proof-texts';

Matt 1:23 “Behold, the virgin will be with child and will give birth to a son, and they will call Him Immanuel” (which means, “God with us”).

In Isaiah we read of a similar story about a promised child (not from a virgin) who was given a name of Maher-shalal-hash-baz, and a title of Immanuel. Was this child God? NO, not a chance. Is Jesus God because he was given the same title? No. Clearly though, God is and was with us in the form and image of Himself - the son Jesus who was without sin and holy in every sense. But Jesus came to die - not just a human nature, while somehow the immortal Son, who cannot die, lived on in 'heaven'! We must query God if He sent His only son or just a human copy.

Titus 2:13 looking for the blessed hope and the appearing of the glory of our great God and Saviour, Christ Jesus.

The subject is the 'glory of God' - Jesus is the GLORY of our great God. Heb 1:3, John 1:4. Does this glory make Jesus God? No.

2 Peter 1:1 To those who have received a faith of the same kind as ours, by the righteousness of our God and Saviour, Jesus Christ

That looks pretty solid! Never mind there is dispute over where to put the comma so it reads like this, 'the righteousness of our God, and Saviour Jesus Christ'

Let's just read the next verse. They are treated separately like an overwhelming number of passages including the OP verse.

Grace and peace be multiplied to you in the knowledge of God and of Jesus our Lord

That's the trouble with solitary 'proof-texts' when read out of context. However, when read with the support of other scripture, they are understood to say often the opposite of what they were proclaimed to teach.

The OP text is one of many that show Jesus, the Lamb, once risen, ascended, exalted is still not God. If he was before an incarnation, he is not anymore. If he is required to be equal to God in all things, the bible never reveals this.

We must ask, why, if Jesus is declared Lord and Christ, heir to all things, granted life by his Father and God, given the Holy Spirit, gave up his spirit at death to the Father, died in the flesh and remained dead for 3 days, raised in the spirit… how can he be God?

Jesus has a God - the same God as all of us (John 20:17) was made like one of us (Heb 2:17) tempted like us (Heb 4:15, Luke 4:2) had his own will which differed from the Father. If he is like this, he cannot be God.

Jesus gives glory to the Father and his God at every turn, every moment of his life was as a humble and obedient servant to God. If some say Jesus must be God because he is worshipped or can forgive sin etc., they are ignoring the context that fully explains the facts of God's inspired word.

As Paul and all the other NT writers understood and proclaimed consistently,

there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we live; and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ. 1 Cor 8:6

  • @user48152 Of course, you are not alone in believing that Jesus is not God. That is the view of many religions and cults. The question I have of you is, "just who is the Lord God spoken of throughout scripture? – Bill Porter Nov 28 '20 at 4:41
  • @BillPorter The Father aka God. Esp. in OT as Jesus didn't exist yet, 'logos become flesh' ~4bc, Where is Jesus called Lord God except in some odd interpretations (some call them translations, but that isn't correct) and a couple of verses like Isaiah. If you hang you hat on these you MUST ignore all other evidence to the contrary which is voluminous! The NT is explicit in separating Jesus and God consistently. – user48152 Nov 28 '20 at 7:52
  • @user48152 Yet the rational you employ is that there is only one God--the Father--so Jesus Christ could not be that one God. Therefore, according to your rational, how does it hold up that Jesus Christ could the Lord, and not God. Did He bump off that Lord God in a coup? Did that former Lord take a dive since you contend they both cannot be Lord? – Bill Porter Nov 28 '20 at 15:34
  • @BillPorter it’s not MY rationale, it’s God’s word, that sadly you seem unable to comprehend. If one is a Lord and one a God as consistently expressed, they are clearly not the same. You should have grasped this by now. Hence we have Jesus sitting next to God! – user48152 Nov 28 '20 at 20:28
  • @user48152 You say that the Lord God that is spoken of thousands of times in Scripture cannot be the Lord because Jesus is the only Lord, and there can only be one Lord. therefore, you say Jesus cannot be God and the Lord God cannot be God because if He claims to be the Lord, Jesus is the only Lord you will allow. What kind of cult is that? Please tell me so I can avoid it. That is NOT typical Biblical Hermeunitics. – Bill Porter Nov 29 '20 at 3:32

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