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In John 3:8 Jesus is talking to the Pharisee and senior Jewish figure Nicodemus.

"The wind bloweth where it listesth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit." KJV

Is Jesus, (possibly in a poetically structured type of way) referring to Ecclesiastes 11:5 which says

"As thou knowest not what is the way of the spirit, nor how the bones do grow in the womb of her that is with child: even so thou knowest not the works of God who maketh all" KJV?

  • I would say yes. Everyone that is born of the Spirit (Holy Spirit of God) is a work of God. We can't be born again of the Spirit of God without Him deciding we are worthy of that blessing. Both refer to not knowing the hidden workings of God lest He show us. – www.gffg.info Apr 26 '19 at 1:28
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Yes, it is very possible that Jesus had in mind Ecclesiates 11:4-5 as He spoke the words in John 3:8, for the context in Ecclesiastes 11 supports His intention in John 3.

Ecclesiastes 11:4-5 (KJV)

4 He that observeth the wind shall not sow; and he that regardeth the clouds shall not reap 5As thou knowest not what is the way of the spirit, nor how the bones do grow in the womb of her that is with child: even so thou knowest not the works of God who maketh all.

We must start in verse 4 which states that if a person is completely committed on observing solely the physical aspects of sowing and reaping to base their livelihood (ie, observing the wind direction and watching to clouds), they may lose their harvest because, as verse 5 states, God, through the spirit and supernatural processes, is the one who provides the increase at harvest time.

In John 3:8, Jesus applies the same rationale to the salvation experience.

John 3:8 (KJV)

8The wind bloweth where it listesth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.

Jesus creates a metaphor where He uses the physical aspects of the wind to represent the Spirit of God. A person may look and see something happening as a result of the wind (eg, trees moving, air pressure on the face, etc) but you can’t see the physical processes that produce the wind. So, in like manner salvation is by the way of the Spirit of God. Everyone that is born of God is born by the invisible processes of the Spirit of God. A man may see the outward result, (eg changed life, changed actions, etc) but no can see the internal process that drives those results.

In both cases, Ecclesiastes 11 and John 3, scripture is saying that life (both physical and spiritual) is supported by God Himself through His Spirit and not through the work of man or by physical processes.

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