John 12: 37-44 (KJV):

37 But though he had done so many miracles before them, yet they believed not on him: 38 That the saying of Esaias the prophet might be fulfilled, which he spake, Lord, who hath believed our report? and to whom hath the arm of the Lord been revealed? 39 Therefore they could not believe, because that Esaias said again, 40 He hath blinded their eyes, and hardened their heart; that they should not see with their eyes, nor understand with their heart, and be converted, and I should heal them. 44 Jesus cried and said, He that believeth on me, believeth not on me, but on him that sent me.

John 12:47-50 (KJV):

47 And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world. 48 He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day. 49 For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak. 50 And I know that his commandment is life everlasting: whatsoever I speak therefore, even as the Father said unto me, so I speak.

What is your understanding of these verses based on the context?

  • I am not clear what you are looking for. I am not even sure I know what 'context driving the understanding' actually means. – Nigel J Apr 23 '19 at 5:42
  • Nigel, fair point. I'll change the wording of the question to make it more clear. Thanks. – alb Apr 23 '19 at 18:46
  • How is that? Any better? – alb Apr 23 '19 at 18:57
  • Hi Alb. I think your question is too broad. Don't forget that you can answer your own question if you have an insight you would like to share. But I'm not sure what you want to scrutinize in this passage. – Ruminator Apr 23 '19 at 23:23
  • @ Ruminatior Yeah, you're probably right about the question being too broad but I wanted someone to have some latitude in their answer And yes you are definitely correct in that this is a difficult section of scripture. However, just because it's difficult doesn't mean we shouldn't discuss it. I may offer my opinion while trying to not be absolutist or dogmatic. – alb Apr 24 '19 at 11:35

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