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[Mat 28:19-20 KJV] 19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: 20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, [even] unto the end of the world. Amen.

Did Jesus say that by baptism and doctrine a man becomes a disciple? or what does the Greek text tell us?

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The structure of the Greek in Matt 28:19, 20 is quite simple and uncomplicated. It contains a succession of verbs that are introduced with two words, "going, therefore" followed by:

  • Making disciples (μαθητεύσατε mathēteusate Verb - Aorist Imperative Active - 2nd Person Plural) - a command to make students of Jesus in order to make more students of Jesus - of all nations
  • Baptising (βαπτίζοντες baptizontes Verb - Present Participle Active - Nominative Masculine Plural) - the usual public rite of admission to the congregation/community of Christians which was to be done in the Name (singular) of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit
  • Teaching (διδάσκοντες didaskontes Verb - Present Participle Active - Nominative Masculine Plural) - the second means by which disciples were to be made - they should be taught all things that Jesus commanded.

Note that of the three verbs, only the first is imperative and the following two are just present active verbs. This suggests that primary objective is to make disciples by the mechanism/means of baptising and teaching. That is, by teaching what Jesus commanded and baptising, the disciples are create new disciples who were to continue doing the same.

Lastly, the first verb of making disciples, μαθητεύω (mathéteuó) means to make a pupil, student, learner, specifically of Jesus. (Matt 13:52, 27:57, Acts 14:21) In Matt 28:19 Jesus is instructing His disciples to make all nations His disciples; that is we must all become imitators of Jesus and make other such imitators of Jesus; that is become Christians - people like Christ. 1 John 2:6, John 13:34, 35, 15:12, 1 John 4:8, 11, 19, Eph 5:1, 2, John 15:13, John 16:33, 2 Tim 1:4, Heb 13:12, 13, 1 Peter 2:21, Matt 6:12, Eph 4:32, 1 Peter 1:15, 16, 1 John 3:3, 2 Peter 1:4, 2 Cor 3:18, etc.

  • Your definition of disciple still makes it sound like Jesus was an educator to my ears. – Ruminator Dec 16 '18 at 10:38
  • Correct - He asked the disciples to (among other things) teach every thing they had been taught. Education is an integral part of the job of disciples. – user25930 Dec 16 '18 at 10:58
  • Paul was more about doctrine, but Jesus, works: [Luk 14:26-27, 33 KJV] 26 If any [man] come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple. 27 And whosoever doth not bear his cross, and come after me, cannot be my disciple. ... 33 So likewise, whosoever he be of you that forsaketh not all that he hath, he cannot be my disciple. – Ruminator Dec 16 '18 at 11:03
  • Agreed. But what is your point? I just read the text as it is. – user25930 Dec 16 '18 at 11:04
  • Also, Matthew's baptismal formula is obviously a trinitarian addition because in Acts they never, ever, ever used it or anything close. – Ruminator Dec 16 '18 at 11:06
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Very good query ...

... if allowed I hope to simplify an ultimate answer more accordingly to The Perspectives of Those in Heaven (remembering Prophets get persecuted)...

Parabolic Paternal:

“ABBA'S (Our Father's) Language/Communication is Christ's also.

(Greek should find The Way to Shem's Language overcoming *babel's towering pride.)

Christ's Verses Speak of Holiness(of becoming Holy/Pure/Sanctified by Baptism) from Above... The Prayer (and doctrine for Discipline) is The LORD'S Prayer if we ask humbly Our LORD.

He Teaches us.

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    Welcome to BHSX. Thanks for your contribution. I wish I could understand your answer - could you please clarify and perhaps add some references? – user25930 Dec 15 '18 at 20:14
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Gospel Parallels

We must never neglect parallel accounts, since they often include details which preclude certain interpretations of their counterparts (that is, one may interpret Matthew, for example, to be saying one thing, which, when read in light of the parallel, cannot possibly be true). This is crucial to understanding the authentic meaning of either.

Matthew's Account

So we have Matthew's account:

Matthew 28:16-20 (DRB)

And the eleven disciples went into Galilee, unto the mountain where Jesus had appointed them. 17 And seeing him they adored: but some doubted. 18 And Jesus coming, spoke to them, saying: All power is given to me in heaven and in earth. 19 Going therefore, teach ye1 all nations; baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost. 20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and behold I am with you all days, even to the consummation of the world.

But pretending for now that we have only Matthew's account (so that we can compare with the parallel and amend any errors) it's evident that baptism is at least an integral if not absolutely essential part of teaching the nations Christianity—or rather an essential part of making disciples of Jesus. The use of the participle “baptizing” is significant, because it indicates a disambiguation of what was stated before: “make disciples of all nations.” That is, by “teach ye all nations” Jesus means “baptize them, and teach them to observe everything I have commanded.” Here, baptism is of central and primary importance (concordant with traditional Christian teaching).

This explains satisfyingly the teaching of the prince of the Apostles, where Peter, as Jesus, who equates, conflates and includes baptism with acceptance of the gospel:

Acts 8:37-28 (DRB) Now when they had heard these [i.e. incriminating, conscience-rending] things, they had compunction in their heart, and said to Peter, and to the rest of the apostles: What shall we do, men and brethren? 38 But Peter said to them: [Repent], and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ, for the remission of your sins: and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Notice he doesn't equate belief with 'not doing' anything ('just assent'). He says 'repent and be baptized and you will have your sins for given'—for that's the force of the grammar).

Here the line between repentance and the baptism which follows is not blurred so much as repentance is defined as incomplete without baptism, the necessary consequence.

After all, the Apostle Paul (the earliest of the New Testament authors) wrote that baptism is when we put on Christ (as a garment specifically):2

Galatians 3:26-27 (DRB) For you are all the children of God by faith, in Christ Jesus. 27 For as many of you as have been baptized in Christ, have put on Christ.

And lest we should think this is how we 'radically identify' merely with Christ after 'having been saved,' he puts to rest this misinterpretation. That is, lest we are said to have put on Christ before baptism (or worse: that before baptism we have not put on Christ but have appropriated His saving work nonetheless, making putting on Christ effectively redundant), baptism is defined as the new circumcision made without hands (i.e. circumcision in spirit):3

Colossians 2:11-12 (DRB) In whom also you are circumcised with circumcision not made by hand, in despoiling of the body of the flesh, but in the circumcision of Christ: 12 Buried with him in baptism, in whom also you are risen again by the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him up from the dead.

That is, we are not buried with him and raised to life with Him unless we are baptized (else we empty the words 'we are raised to life with Him' of all true meaning).

Romans 6:3-4 (DRB) Know you not that all we, who are baptized in Christ Jesus, are baptized in his death? 4 For we are buried together with him by baptism into death; that as Christ is risen from the dead by the glory of the Father, so we also may walk in newness of life.

Again and again baptism, by Christ as well as Apostle—and strictly "as many as have been baptized"—is viewed as the fulfillment and constitution of a saving repentance and faith in Christ.

Mark's Account

Now Mark's account only agrees with this:

Mark 16:14-16 (DRB)

At length he appeared to the eleven as they were at table: and he upbraided them with their incredulity and hardness of heart, because they did not believe them who had seen him after he was risen again. 15 And he said to them: Go ye into the whole world, and preach the gospel to every creature. 16 He that believeth and is baptized, shall be saved: but he that believeth not shall be condemned.

Here in Mark,4 we have more words of Jesus: “He who believes and is baptized shall be saved.” This makes baptism an essential act once you believe ("but he who believes not" includes “and is not baptized”—“and is not baptized” would be redundant for the same reason, 'he who is atheist and belies not in God' is redundant—whoever is atheist, it follows, is not a believer: whoever truly believes will baptized; those who don't will see not need to, and so will not be, whence it follows that it is redundant to say 'he who believes not and is not baptized, because he doesn't believe'). This is also corroborated in Acts, where the preaching of the Gospel seems to have intrinsically included baptism as an essential part of it:

Acts 8:34-36 (DRB) And the eunuch answering Philip, said: I beseech thee, of whom doth the prophet speak this? of himself, or of some other man? 35 Then Philip, opening his mouth, and beginning at this scripture, preached unto him Jesus. 36 And as they went on their way, they came to a certain water; and the eunuch said: See, here is water: what doth hinder me from being baptized?

To say anything other than 'Jesus taught that you must believe and be baptized to be saved' is literally to say 'He who believes and is baptized' is equivalent to 'he who believes and is not baptized' shall be saved—which is just a basic grammar issue, before we even dream of qualifying it for theologically viable.

Whence the teaching of Jesus is clear, and has always been understood as I have above described by the Christian Church.

Appendix

St. Paul taught that right doctrine believed is necessary for salvation:

1 Timothy 4:16 (DRB) Take heed to thyself and to doctrine: be earnest in them. For in doing this thou shalt both save thyself and them that hear thee.


Footnotes

1 Or “disciple all nations”

2 Cf. Mt 22:1; Rev 19:9/ Rev 19:8; Mt 22:12-13

3 Cf. Ezek 36:25-26; Heb 10:22; Eph 5:26; Titus 3:5; etc.

4 The so-called 'addition of Mark' can be variously explained, including imperfect or hurried or mistaken transmission: not only by addition; and as an argument in support of its not being an addition, the material "the eleven as they sat at table" seems on the surface to contradict Matthew's account, where no mention of being sat at table is mentioned, only recourse to the mountain appointed by Jesus: it also has nowhere to be from, and in any case agrees with the faith professed by those through whose hands alone we have received Matthew and the rest of Mark to begin with.

  • You don't distinguish between Jesus/Peter and Paul nor between the last days of temple-centric Judaism and the Body of Christ. The Twelve were sent to baptize but Paul was not. For Paul the one baptism is by the spirit into Christ. We are buried with Christ and raised by the operation of God by faith. – Ruminator Dec 16 '18 at 11:28
  • I do distinguish them inasmuch as do not conflate them, but quote their respective teaching. Or did you mean I don't make them contradict each other? The Body of Christ are all that are in Christ, for there is "no distinction." Paul was not sent to baptize, but to preach the gospel: "How then will they call upon him in whom they have not believed: and how shall they believe if they have not heard?" So since he baptized, it doesn't mean he didn't. For Peter, Paul and Jesus, baptism is very clear as to meaning. It's significance is purely spiritual; the ritual itself is not by its very nature. – Sola Gratia Dec 16 '18 at 14:32
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The words of Matthew 28:19-20 were not spoken to "you"(the questioner) or anyone else alive or dead other than to the Twelve:

[Mat 28:19-20 KJV] 19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: 20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, [even] unto the end of the world. Amen.

None of those words were spoken to "us" but to a chosen dozen who were called by name to be the witnesses of his resurrection. Nor is such a command made by Jesus or his disciples/apostles to the saints.

Water baptism for forgiveness of sins was the sign of the beginning of the time of the Messiah, resurrection and glorifying of elect Israel, the visitation upon the temple and Jerusalem and the end of the age:

[Zec 13:1 YLT] 1 In that day there is a fountain opened To the house of David And to the inhabitants of Jerusalem, For sin and for impurity.

It is a mistake to read of the events of the last days of Israel's covenant with God as normative for the body of Christ. These are apples and oranges.

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