I am familiar with and generally accept the current consensus of the writing of the gospels:

  • Mark was written first
  • Q is not extant but was thought to be a common source for Matthew and Luke
  • Matthew and Luke wrote independently, with Mark and Q as source material, as well as unique independent source material.

I came across something that would seem at first glance to challenge this.

  • Mark 4:30-33 is the parable of the mustard seed.
  • Matthew 13:31-32 and Luke 13:18 are clear parallels.
  • Then Matthew and Luke both insert the parable of the leaven in the very next verse (Matthew 13:33; Luke 13:20).

I suppose an explanation is that Q and Mark both had the mustard seed, and Q alone continued to the leaven. Is this plausible?

Or this could be a remarkable coincidence. Perhaps they were both independently listing the "Kingdom of Heaven is like..." passages and got a similar order in this case.

Or are there other explanations that make more sense?

Here is a link to the relevant passages.

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    "the current consensus ..." I think it's more of a theory than a consensus – user33515 Jan 31 '18 at 5:24
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    As @user33515 says, there is no consensus on this. Some people believe Matthew was used as a source for Luke. If you're interested, you can read this (one similar example: Luke 3 and Matthew 3 both added the "brood of vipers" quote to Mark 1) – b a Jan 31 '18 at 9:55
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    User33515's comment is inane - no one would ever dispute that it's a theory. Consensus refers to how widely a theory is accepted, and from all I've seen the two source Q theory is still very much the front runner, especially outside the academy. Popularity doesn't determine truth, but it does usually provide the most accessible starting point to explore tricky issues. – curiousdannii Jan 31 '18 at 16:01
  • I've been reading Richard Carrier's book On the historicity of Jesus which argues convincingly that there was no Q, and that Mark was first, Matthew redacted Mark (and added some material), and that Luke redacted both Mark and Matthew (and added some material). This fixes the problem quite neatly. – Dr Xorile Sep 12 '18 at 21:13

A fundamental problem of this question is the a priori of "the current consensus of the writing of the gospels". Such a consensus does not exist. This two-sources-theory is just one of several attempts to reconcile the difficulties in explaining the synoptic problem, and admitted: fairly popular at that.

There are other theories, which like this one have their advantages and disadvantages. These may be grouped into Markan priority, Matthean priority, Lukan priority and a multitude of sources. An overview of the most common models is found at Wikipedia and at the Synoptic Problem Website. Alas, those fail to mention a tradition of explanation that goes from Harnack to Klinghardt: the (proto-)Marcionite priority, which complicates matters further. (I am aware that the last line is extremely unpopular in America. It has its merits, but is less useful here since that passage seems to be absent in the reconstructed gospel.)

That said, the passage in question is indeed very problematic for most theories. One example from the literature is Zeba Antonin Crook, "The Synoptic Parables of the Mustard Seed and the Leaven: A Test-Case for the Two-Document, Two-Gospel, and Farrer-Goulder Hypotheses", Journal for the Study of the New Testament 22.78 (2000): 23-48 —

As long as the various source hypotheses remain hypotheses, the synoptic problem shall remain unsolved and even unsolvable. The nature of any hypothesis is that it cannot account for all of the data all of the time, for in so doing it would cease to be a hypothesis. The data presented by the synoptic parables of the Mustard Seed (Mt. 13.31-32//Mk 4.30-32//Lk. 13. I 8-19) and the Leaven (Mt. 13.33//Lk. 13.20-21) afford us with a valuable opportunity to test the claims of each of the three current and popular solutions to the synoptic problem – the 2 Document Hypothesis (2DH), the Two-Gospel Hypothesis (2GH) and the Farrer-Goulder Hypothesis (F-G).

It is not uncommon to read studies that either state explicitly or work under the assumption that the synoptic problem has been solved. Using the parables of the Mustard Seed and the Leaven as a test-case, it becomes clear that the problem is far from a solution. Each of the three major source hypotheses has its strengths (and weaknesses) when it attempts to account for the data generated by these two pericopae. Although this paper concludes that the Two-Document Hypothesis (2DH) deals with the data with the fewest problems, the strengths of the other hypotheses coupled with the weaknesses of the 2DH should help keep the 2DH honest.

It is therefore currently not possible to reach a definite conclusion. Whole dissertations try to solve the problems with this passage, for example: Franz Kogler: Das Doppelgleichnis vom Senfkorn und vom Sauerteig in seiner traditionsgeschichtlichen Entwicklung, Echter Verlag: Würzburg, 1988.

Kogler delivered an answer, but that met criticism as well (Bartosz Adamczewski, Q Or Not Q?: The So-called Triple, Double, and Single Traditions in the Synoptic Gospels [Peter Lang, 2010], p. 121):

… deutero-Mark transformed the Markan parable of the mustard seed into a twin parable of the mustard seed and of the yeast by adapting it to the hellenistic cultural milieu […]

Kogler failed to adresss adequately the redaction-critical issue of correct attribution of the composition of the twin, gender-paired parables within the synoptic tradition…

(It might also be noted that Adamczewski's work was also heavily criticized.) If we follow Crook's assessment in comparing three theories in their explanatory power for this pericope – alone – than it is indeed a 'yes, it is plausible' to the question: according to the two document hypothesis:

This makes it reasonable to think that Luke found it in Q and left it there.

But this is just for this pericope and only comparing three of the popular theories. For the whole synoptic problem the findings presented are much more limited in problem solving and should only be read as an indicator, not as proof for the whole theory.

These are the passages from Crook that mainly praise the 2DH, while highlighting only a few of its shortcomings:

That a pericope is triple tradition is generally sufficient to show that Mark is the only source for Matthew and Luke. The Mustard Seed presents certain problems for this. While the degree and nature of the agreements between Matthew and Mark (see Table 1) demand direct literary dependence, the agreements between Mark and Luke do not. There are several features that suggest Lukan independence of Mark here. The words Luke shares with Mark are weak; they do not add anything significant to the meaning or application of the parable. Additionally, the only material which shows that Luke and Mark are even telling the same story is the triple agreement material; therefore, there is nothing to demand Luke’s reliance on Mark.

Further, all the double agreement words of Luke/Mark against Matthew are comfortable enough in Luke that there is no need to suggest Mark’s influence at all. The τινι (v. 18a) which Luke appears to take from Mark is actually part of a Lukan construction (τινι ομοισς) which Luke uses without Markan parallels (Lk. 6.47; 7.30; 13.20). This suggests that Luke need not have obtained this word (even as minor as it is) from Mark. The unnecessary order of the two parables also supports the contention that two versions of the Mustard Seed survive in our text. Therefore, according to the 2DH, two different versions of this parable are preserved in the synoptic Gospels––that of Mark and Q.

synoptic chart table

[…] Tuckett suggests (for the Mustard Seed) that while Mark was working from an earlier source, our parable offers no reasons to assume that Q itself (in the form available to us) is that source. The basic problem with proposing too many Mark/Q overlaps is the nature of the evidence; the data that alerts us to the possibility of a Mark/Q overlap, namely that Mark shares so little in common with Matthew/Luke(Q), is the same data that militates against Mark’s relying directly on Q.

On the 2DH, Matthew conflates Mark and Q here as he is said to do consistently. Matthew is required to have made certain alterations, some of which are more easily rationalized than others.[…]

Next, we need to look at how Luke deals with the two versions of the Mustard Seed. According to the 2DH, Luke prefers Q and alters it very little when confronted by a similar passage in Mark. While neither Matthew nor Luke has the monopoly on original wording concerning Most 2DH commentators agree that Luke reflects the Q version of the Mustard Seed more closely than Matthew. Although Luke follows Q very closely, there are a few changes that Luke likely made to Q.[…] There is considerable debate on whether Luke’s double opening question reflects Markan influence.25 It was noted earlier that since Luke is five chapters beyond Mark’s Mustard Seed, the 2DH can easily account for the meager agreements between the two versions. Luke’s double question presents the 2DH with a problem, however, since it cannot be said that he categorically avoids this characteristic feature of Mark. It is not fair to claim that Luke is too distant from Mark to take any significant vocabulary, or claim, as does Friedrichsen. […]

The 2DH must decide whether Luke is using Mark for the Mustard Seed or not. Fleddermann claims that both of Luke’s double questions contain similarly un-Lukan language, but this cannot tell us Luke’s source.[…]

There are three problematic words in Luke which the 2DH sidesteps by suggesting Luke found them in Q. If this is not entirely satisfactory, it is a far better hypothesis than could be suggested by the 2GH or F-G hypothesis who, as we shall see, must ascribe them to Lukan redaction. These words are κηπος and βαλλω in the Mustard Seed and παλιν in the Leaven. There is little to indicate that Luke ’liked’ κηπος and hence may have been predisposed to add it to his source, since it occurs only here in Luke (and never in Mark or Matthew). This makes it reasonable to think that Luke found it in Q and left it there. The image of impurity that is created by planting mustard in a garden is mirrored in the Leaven, and thus might have been a part of the original radical parables.

So, while it remains impossible to account for why Matthew removed παλιν from the Leaven, its occurrence in Luke’s Leaven is best explained by his finding it in Q and keeping it as he had before.

To review briefly, on the whole, Matthew’s conflation of Mark and Q is problem free, likewise with the majority of the changes he is observed to have made. The area where the 2DH shows weakness in its account of the Mustard Seed and Leaven is primarily in the double question in Luke, since for all other differences he is not looking at Mark. With respect to the historic presents in Matthew, his choice of αυξανω over αναβαινω, his avoidance of Mark’s επι της γης, and the inclusion of ελθειν of the birds, none of these contradict any claimed patterns of redaction, they merely cannot be explained without simply restating the problem. […]

We have seen in the course of this study that the three popular and current source hypotheses can account for some of the data quite adequately. This is not surprising; if they were not good to a certain degree, we should be surprised that they had any adherents at all. Not one of them was able to account for all the data equally well; some encountered problems dealing with specific words, others with presenting coherent redactional procedures. What separates the source hypotheses is not that one of them can answer all the questions posed to it, but that one has the fewest problems. It might be a sad state of affairs that we need to accept as the better answer the one that fails the fewest times, but this is the current state of the synoptic problem. For the Mustard Seed and the Leaven, the Two-Document Hypothesis deals with the data in the least problematic manner.

  • Can you outline the problems Crook sees with each theory's explanation of these verses? – curiousdannii Jan 31 '18 at 15:55
  • If anyone sees the need to shortened the quotes, or improve on the table or the Greek: please edit . – LangLangC Feb 1 '18 at 17:19

As one answer already noted, and your comment later in the question indicates there is not a anything like a real consensus to the how to solve the synoptic problem.

In the question you mention the phrase:

"as well as unique independent source material."

One solution to the problem that is often overlooked is the idea that each of the authors wrote independently. This position is represented by a number of authors, but Robert Thomas' and F. David Farnell's work The Jesus Crisis: The Inroads of Historical Criticism into Evangelical Scholarship is one of the better.

They point out that the solution to the verses you mentioned is that Jesus gave a lengthy discourse that was repetitive in nature with the differences coming from the way the material was repeated. Back in the nineteenth century Benjamin Warfield pointed to verses like Mark 10:17 and the imperfect verb -- the disciples kept asking as an excellent example of how the disciples asked the same question multiple times and Jesus answered multiple times with slight variations each time.

Regarding the Matthew 13:32 and Mark 4:32 passage here is what the authors put in the Jesus Crisis:

The parable of the mustard tree (Matt. 13:32; Mark 4:32) furnishes another illustration of repetition. Matthew has Jesus saying that the birds of the air rest "in its branches," but Mark has them resting "under its shade." Jesus probably told the parable in both ways. Jesus Crisis (370)

Inherent to the independent view is the idea that no one gospel records everything Jesus said on a particular occasions. In fact there may have been multiple occasions where the same subject came up again and it only appears that it was one occasion. For example: the sermon on the plain may have been a repeat of the sermon on the mount, with some minor differences.

The authors of the Jesus Crisis state that this method of harmonization is called the "additive-harmonization approach" by those who are critical of this method. That might serve as a useful phrase to search in Google to learn more.

  • In his book, Cold Case Christianity, J. Warner Wallace, formerly a cold-case homicide detective with a long career in southern California, analyzes the gospels as if they were testimonies given by individuals in one of his cold-case investigations. He describes the methods that he used to determine collusion or to discover flaws or cover-ups, and how the gospel writers would fare. I think this is a far better approach than scholarly ones by people unqualified to analyze testimonies. – Dieter Feb 2 '18 at 0:38
  • Dieter: does Wallace argue they were independent witnesses or there was some corroboration between the writers? – Ken Banks Feb 2 '18 at 22:53
  • That's an excellent question, Ken. Homicide detectives must indeed be able to detect collusion between witnesses. Wallace examines the methods for exposing sham testimony as well as the subtle giveaways some witness provide including small details and the pronouns they use. To solve a cold-case homicide, detectives must build a case of overwhelming circumstantial evidence strong enough to convict someone in a court of law. This is why I feel Wallace's approach is unique, and that his book is well worth reading. At 35, he described himself as "an angry atheist" when he started. – Dieter Feb 2 '18 at 23:34
  • "One solution to the problem that is often overlooked is the idea that each of the authors wrote independently" - Well that would be incredible, wouldn't it? +1 for you! – user33515 Feb 20 '18 at 4:07

Markan priority has very strong evidence and is held by almost all critical scholars. But although the two source theory (i.e. that Matthew and Luke independently used Mark and Q but not each other) is the dominant position, it is not held as universally because of some nagging problems with it. You've found exactly one of these nagging problems.

There are several passages where Matthew and Luke agree with each other and disagree with Mark, which is unusual and notable because on the whole the pattern is strongly for Mark to agree with Matthew or Luke against the other. In addition to your example, two similarly difficult passages are Matthew 3.11-12/Mark 1.7-8/Luke 3.16-17 and Matt. 4.1-11/Mark 1.12-13/Luke 4.1-13 (see here). The most common argument given by people who hold to the two source theory is that these major agreements between Matthew and Luke against Mark come from passages where Mark and Q themselves overlapped. So even though this passage is in Mark, Matthew and Luke are both taking it from Q instead of Mark. By contrast people like Goodacre who hold that Luke used Matthew would just say that Luke was following Matthew instead of Mark in this passage.


The possibilities you raise are:

(a) Mark provides some passages, Q provides the same passages plus more

(b) Mark provides some passages, Q provides some of the same passages plus some additional passages not found in Mark

(c) Mark provides some passages, Q provides only additional passages not found in Mark

To test these hypotheses, we can look at the Eusebian Canons, 4th century harmony of the Gospels that organized each Gospel into passages (not verses - those didn't exist yet) and indexed the passages according to whose Gospel they were in. In the Eusebian system, there was a table indexing passages that were in all four Gospels; a table indexing passages that were in Matthew, Mark, Luke, but not John; a table indexing passages that were in Matthew, Luke, John, but not Mark; etc.

  • According to this table, there are 190 passages that are common to Mark, Matthew and Luke. (I'm rounding to the nearest 10, because I am counting entries in a hardcopy I have). These would have been the passages that Matthew and Luke would have copied from Mark under the Markan priority hypothesis. Some or all of these could have been in the hypothetical Q document.

  • Further, there are about 90 passages that do not appear in Mark, but appear in Matthew and Luke. These definitely would have come from the Q document, if the Q hypothesis is correct.

  • In Matthew, there are about 70 passages that are in neither Luke nor Mark.

  • In Luke, there are about 90 passages that are in neither Matthew nor Mark

If we were to stop here, then we could say that Matthew is about 20% original work, around 55% Mark, and around 25% Q, although Q may have contained the Markan verses as well (we don't know). Luke would be around 25% original work, 50% Mark, and 25% Q, where again we don't know whether Q contained all of the Markan verses in addition to original content.

There's a little bit of a wrinkle here in that there are around 50 passages in Matthew that are found in Mark but not Luke, and around 10 passages in Luke that are found in Mark but not Matthew. Presumably we would attribute this anomaly to sloppy copying on Matthew's and Luke's part. They either misread the copy of Mark they had or had corrupted copies.

  • Why do you assume canonical Mark is correct and Matthew/Luke's copies (if they were different) corrupted? If anything, the last verses of Mark give the opposite impression – b a Feb 20 '18 at 10:32
  • @ba - I actually assume all four Gospels are "correct" as we have them. I don't subscribe to any of the Urtext hypotheses. What I was trying to say, though, is that the Markan priority hypothesis presents a conundrum since what Luke "quotes" from Mark is not exactly the same as what Matthew "quotes" from Mark. The late conclusion of Mark is a different case of a passage which neither Matthew nor Luke include. There 19 other passages like this, though the conclusion passage is a special case since it does not even appear in the Eusebian Canons. – user33515 Feb 20 '18 at 14:57

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