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Revelation 11:15,18 NASB

15Then the seventh angel sounded; and there were loud voices in heaven, saying, "The kingdom of the world has become the kingdom of our Lord and of His Christ; and He will reign forever and ever."

18And the nations were enraged, and Your wrath came, and the time came for the dead to be judged, and the time to reward Your bond-servants the prophets and the saints and those who fear Your name, the small and the great, and to destroy those who destroy the earth."

The above texts seem to point to the millennial rule of Christ, but in Revelation 16 more woes are introduced

Revelation 16:1 NASB

1Then I heard a loud voice from the temple, saying to the seven angels, "Go and pour out on the earth the seven bowls of the wrath of God."

Which comes first, the seventh trumpet or the bowls of wrath?

  • This may be a question for Christian.SE. – Steve May 14 '17 at 23:43
  • "Which comes first, the seventh trumpet or the bowls of wrath?" Seventh trumpet = Rev 11:15 (as you note); the "seven bowls" are introduced in Rev 16:1 (as you note). Rev 11:18 belongs (with 11:17) to a glimpse of celestial worship. How does it bear on "which comes first" of Trumpet 7 or Bowls of Wrath? Perhaps you should read something like Wallace's "Introduction, Argument and Outline" to Revelation, as some questions you're asking lately suggest a basic orientation to the book could help. – Dɑvïd May 15 '17 at 9:33
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According to the text, the seventh angel most certainly blew his trumpet before the angels began to pour out the seven bowls of wrath.

I don't see how one could interpret the text to refer to things out of sequence:

  • Then the seventh angel blew his trumpet, and ... (11:15-18)
  • Then God's temple in heaven was opened, and ... (11:19-12:6)
  • Now war arose in heaven ... And the great dragon was thrown down ... (12:7-12)
  • And when the dragon saw that he had been thrown down to the earth ... (12:13-16)
  • Then the dragon was angry with the woman, and ... (12:17-13:10)
  • Then I saw another beast ... and ... (13:11-18)
  • Then I looked, and lo, on Mount Zion stood the Lamb, and ... (14:1-5)
  • Then I saw another angel flying in midheaven ... and ... (14:6-13)
  • Then I looked, and lo, a white cloud, and ... (14:14-20)
  • Then I saw another portent in heaven ... and ... (15:1-4)
  • After this I looked, and the temple of the tent of witness in heaven was opened, and ... (15:5-8)
  • Then I heard a loud voice from the temple telling the seven angels, “Go and pour out on the earth the seven bowls of the wrath of God.” (16:1)
  • So the first angel went and poured ... The second angel poured ... The third angel poured ... The fourth angel poured ... The fifth angel poured ... The sixth angel poured ... (16:2-12)

There is nothing in the text that seems to imply that I heard a loud voice from the temple telling the seven angels (16:1) is a recollection of something that happened before the seventh angel blew his trumpet (11:15). There is also nothing in the text that seems to imply that the angels did not go and immediately pour their bowls (16:2ff) upon hearing the loud voice from the temple (16:1).

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The key to Revelation is the Old Testament. Think of it as a key code for unlocking the prophesy of Revelation. All of the New Testament is the Old Testament revealed, and fulfilled. So, the reader must find the prophetic judgment language as it was originally used in the Old Testament.

Then, the time texts are key. Revelation was the prophesy of the battle of Christ against His enemies - those who pierced Him and who were persecuting His newly born church. As an historian will write the record of a war from different battle fronts, so Revelation works through the battle from the view of the throne scene in Chaps. 4 - 11, and then turns to retrace the battle front from the church and the beasts in Chap. 12.

Chap. 12 outlines the birth of Christ and the church in the first part of the first century A.D. - events that had already happened before the book was written, and before the prophesy was shown to John n- and then moves forward to the battle. Then Chaps. 13 - 19 deal with the battle as was shown in chaps. 4 -11 but from the point of view of church.

So, the angels with the seven trumpets parallel the angels with the seven bowls. The first of each were cast upon the earth; the second upon the sea; the third upon the rivers and springs; the fourth upon the sun, moon, and stars; the fifth released the locust army of the sea beast; the sixth sounded the call to the full battle itself; and the seventh sounded the completion of the battle.

Each set was tied to the plagues of Egypt which God had told Israel He would pour out upon them if they broke His covenant and did not keep His laws.

Deu. 28:60-61,

“Moreover he will bring upon thee all the diseases of Egypt, which thou wast afraid of; and they shall cleave unto thee. 61 Also every sickness, and every plague, which is not written in the book of this law, them will the Lord bring upon thee, until thou be destroyed.” (KJV)

Everyone struggles with Revelation because they do not pay attention to the time texts, and they do not find the code from the Old Testament. Revelation parallels Ezek. chap. 5, which was judgment pronounced upon Israel.

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