I was reading Daniel 8:15-27, where it says:

.... the ram you saw that had two horns represents the kingdoms of Media and Persia. The goat represents the kingdom of Greece, and the prominent horn between his eyes is the first king....
—Daniel 8:20-21 (GNT)

Can anybody explain what is meant by "kingdom of Greece"? Which countries/region/area does it point to now or back in the day?


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The original word here is closest to yawan, aka Javan son of Japheth—who is credited in the Bible with being the start of the tree of descendants that populated the Greek region. So the translation isn't unreasonable, but it may be talking more about the people rather than a traditional "kingdom".

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    'Yavan' (יון or יוון) is still the name for Greece today in modern Hebrew.
    – Muke Tever
    May 11, 2012 at 15:40

The reference to Greece is chronologically correct, as it follows the Persian Empire mentioned in verse 20. Verse 22 refers to the kingdom being broken and to four kingdoms that stood up for it.

21-22 And the rough goat is the king of Grecia: and the great horn that is between his eyes is the first king. Now that being broken, whereas four stood up for it, four kingdoms shall stand up out of the nation, but not in his power.

The four Hellenic kingdoms that followed the death of Alexander the Great in 323 BCE were Egypt, Syria, Macedonia and Thrace. Clearly the "rough goat" refers to Alexander himself. The "first king" may have been Alexander's father, Philip.

Much of Greece became unified under Philip in 337 BCE.


Then why invoke the same four winds as from revelations and the end times, which is primarily what Daniel's visions were all about ?

The goat with one horn seems to be, oddly, (and one heck of a prophecy), an allusion to the lamb from the end times, because the lamb is Christ and would be about the very same battle Michael wages against the dragon.

Michael being Christ In this vision, the Goat replaces the lamb and the Ram replaces the dragon/ devil.

The entire chapter of Daniel 8, alludes to the same event Christ warned of about his return The falling away

The "antichrist" exhalting and magnifying himself, setting himself up in "-the temple"

No doubt also related to the "abomination that causes desolation standing in the holy place"

8.11 even mentions the same daily sacrifice being taken away, and the host being trodden underfoot..

All of it "until the sanctuary is cleansed"

Hence Christ finally "pouring out his bowl", he who leteth will let until finally being taken out of the way

Thus Christ later admitting "it is done"

Can the world not see what this is all about ?

Who actually "falls" ? How Christ comes back ? Why Christ and Lucifer are labelled the morning star Why the bible is RIDDLED with messages to the son of man. Ie, "let the reader understand"

Why "he who overcomes" will be given power over the nations And why it is him who is given the morning star..

How both the lamb and the "beast" overcome their attackers, be it the saints or "these who have one mind."

And why Wormwoods name means Curse in Hebrew, and is related to Apollo, Artemis, Apollyon, Abaddon, Destruction, the son of destruction and thus, the falling away

That's why, when the Star or Angel falls, and lands upon the waters making them bitter..

Its unpalatable to the nations.

"The waters you saw being the nations."


Question: When you say the four kingdoms referred to as Egypt, Syria, Macedonia, and Thrace… is it reasonable to conclude this would be the ptolemaic Kingdom of Egypt, and the Seleucid Kingdom of Syria?…

BTW, Jesus isn’t Michael. Ever. 2 distinctly different persons. Jesus never claimed to be Michael. Jesus on several occasions claimed to be God, however. When forgiving sins he simply said “your sins are forgiven” not “God said he forgives you”. He always accepted worship or “obeisance” always. Faithful Angels would NEVER accept worship. Jesus is God in the second personage of the Holy Trinity. Jesus created Michael. In Him and by Him all things were created, including you and I. John 1:1-10.

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