Timeline for In Zechariah 14:9 what does it mean "the LORD will be one and his name one"?
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| Mar 21 at 21:41 | comment | added | Olde English | Ok! I can see that this back and forth here is not going to end in a cogent conclusion. At least you explained your "abstract" stance. "Death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire", is indeed in the "abstract". But, we diverse, as that bit of obscurity is hardly relevant to the Q. at hand. It's over and out from me. | |
| Mar 21 at 15:50 | comment | added | Nephesh Roi | (cont'd) See Rev 20:5: “The rest of the dead did not come back to life until the thousand years were over”. You see, the end of resurrections go well beyond the Millennium! It talks about abstract ideas; “Death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire” (Rev 20:14) much after the Millennium. “The last enemy……is death” (1 Cor 15:26), same, much after the Millennium. | |
| Mar 21 at 15:49 | comment | added | Nephesh Roi | As you agreed, the context is resurrection from the dead; not Millennium. The context surpasses the Millennium by thousands of years. Death through Adam (1 Cor 15:21-22) was at least 6000 years before Millennium. Resurrection through Jesus (same verses) was at least 2000 years before Millennium. See the order; first Christ rose from the dead (minimum 2000 years before M), then His saints are resurrected just before Millennium. “Then is the end” (verse 24) of all resurrections which goes well beyond the Millennium. (cont'd) | |
| Mar 21 at 2:50 | comment | added | Olde English | Oh, are you sure about that? The context does indeed talk about resurrection from death, and even to the end of the Millennium is inferred, v.24. The Greek word, transliterated basileian = kingdom (properly). Strongs 932, talks of Christ's earthly kingdom rule in the Millennium, the realm in which he will sovereignly rule. The last "hostile" thing (death) does not get ultimately - as it pertains within the Millennium - rectified until the 1000 years has run its course. How are we supposed to be thinking in the "abstract" here? Whose dictate are you following? | |
| Mar 20 at 13:13 | comment | added | Nephesh Roi | @OldeEnglish – 1 Cor 15:24-28 is not at all talking about the conventional political/spiritual rulership. The context is about the resurrection from death; not any Millennium world government. The word “kingdom” here means “realm” (Strong) such as ‘plant kingdom’, ‘animal kingdom’ etc. God the Father and His Christ are working out a grand project of converting “Man kingdom” into “God kingdom” (John 10:35). Christ will rest only when the last “hostile” thing (death) is ceased (verse 26). (These are all abstract things). So, it doesn’t say what you think it says. | |
| Mar 20 at 11:02 | comment | added | Olde English | If Yahweh and Jesus were one and the same spiritual person, as you are wont to infer, rather than two separate spiritual persons, but nevertheless of uniform mind and thought processing, then why would there be a need for a back and forth transfer of kingly power, at the beginning and end of the "Millennium"? - see 1 Corinthians 15:24-28. Jesus is denoted as "King of kings" and "Lord of lords" at Armageddon, above all earthly kings and lords, who he then brings to nothing. The ultimate sovereign, from the beginning of eternity, is always Yahweh. | |
| Mar 20 at 6:34 | history | answered | Nephesh Roi | CC BY-SA 4.0 |