Timeline for If prophet Samuel resurrected (2 Sam. 28: 3-12; 2 Sam. 28:11-15), why the saying: Jesus is the only one defeated death?
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| Jan 28 at 13:09 | comment | added | Jackson Dunn | note the fear with which the witch responds to the revelation of Samuel. It's likely that she didn't bring him up (was expecting to be a charlatan or talk to a familiar demon) and got way more than she bargained for. She probably was not in control of Samuel... even though she thought she brought him up. | |
| Jan 27 at 22:45 | comment | added | LarsH | How indeed could a witch do that? How could the "prince of the kingdom of Persia" (whether human or demonic) resist a heavenly entity for 21 days (Daniel 10:13)? We know little about how these spiritual powers work. But clearly heavenly entities are not all omnipotent. Moreover, just because something is illegal (against God's law) doesn't mean he won't allow people to commit that evil. Murder is against God's law, yet he allows people to have the power to do it. | |
| Jan 27 at 21:30 | history | edited | Dottard | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Jan 27 at 20:54 | comment | added | Dottard | @LarsH - I am responding to the common (but not universal) belief that at death "the spirit returns to God who gave it." (Eccl 12:7). Thus, Samuel's spirit cannot be under the earth unless that is the place where heaven exists. Further, how could the spirit be seen as it has no material existence? Lastly, how can an illegal, evil witch command a heavenly entity? | |
| Jan 27 at 20:53 | history | edited | Dottard | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Jan 27 at 19:00 | comment | added | LarsH | However, I agree with you that Samuel was not resurrected. His spirit was brought up (v. 13), but resurrection involves the body as well. Moreover your points about the uniqueness of Jesus' resurrection are spot-on. | |
| Jan 27 at 18:59 | comment | added | LarsH | The most serious argument against your second option (for those who believe the Bible is true) is that the passage says that it was Samuel. If a passage says it was Samuel but means it was a trick that deceived Saul into thinking it was Samuel, then the same could be applied to many other passages, including the death and resurrection of Jesus. | |
| Jan 27 at 18:57 | comment | added | LarsH | I don't understand what your point is about John 3:13 here. Also, there seems to be an unexplained assumption that Samuel would have been in heaven at this time, as opposed to being in state or place of waiting. In fact, John 3:13 would suggest that Samuel had not ascended into heaven. So in brief, I'm confused. | |
| Jan 27 at 16:55 | comment | added | Nephesh Roi | +1. I cannot write better than this! | |
| Jan 27 at 11:54 | history | edited | Dottard | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Jan 27 at 11:11 | history | answered | Dottard | CC BY-SA 4.0 |