Timeline for Is it Revelation 20:12 "the dead" is referring to verse 5 or something else?
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| Apr 12, 2023 at 19:25 | comment | added | Dottard | I fully and whole-heartedly agree. But none of this wonderful Scripture uses the word "resurrection" to describe the new life in Christ. That word is used only literally to describe a bringing back to life of people after physical death. | |
| Apr 12, 2023 at 13:56 | comment | added | Anne | @Dottard - Then there's Galatians 2:20-21, "I am crucified with Christ [= dead to the law, vs. 19] nevertheless I live; yet not I but Christ liveth in me : and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God..." Then 6:14, "But God forbid that I should glory, save in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom the world is crucified unto me, and I unto the world". Crucifixion here equates with death. But life follows without a blip. New life. Spiritual life. | |
| Apr 12, 2023 at 11:34 | comment | added | Anne | @ Dottard. It is both spiritual AND literal. Only those symbolically raised (before physical death gets them) are spoken of as having the first resurrection. At death they are "absent from the body and present with the Lord", to be later clothed with their resurrection body at the end of the age 2 Cor.5:1-10. I'm not denying a literal, bodily resurrection then! P.S. Originally, baptism swiftly followed profession of faith (conversion). | |
| Apr 12, 2023 at 11:13 | comment | added | Dottard | OK. I Understand your thinking but it is still at odds with Biblical language - the resurrection of the righteous is a still future event according to Matthew 22:23, (28), 30; Mark 12:18, 23 Luke 20:27, 33, 36; John 5:28, 29, 11:24; Acts 17:18; Acts 23:8; 2 Timothy 2:18, because it occurs at the end of the age. That is, the resurrection is literal and not spiritual, in Biblical terminology. | |
| Apr 12, 2023 at 10:58 | comment | added | Anne | @Dottard I was thinking of Paul's explanation of water baptism in Rom. 6:3-11. Going under the water is entering into Christ's death, and being raised out of the water is being raised to newness of life in him. That's a spiritual resurrection. Paul uses past tense for dying to sin, and present tense to then being alive to God through Jesus Christ. The resurrection of the mortal body still awaits though one has died to sin while living because of righteousness (Rom. 8:10-11). | |
| Apr 11, 2023 at 22:16 | comment | added | Dottard | Thanks, Anne - the NT never describes conversion as a resurrection. It is described as a new creation in 2 Cor 5:17 but never a resurrection. However, Jesus spoke of the two resurrections in John 5:28, 29. See also Acts 24:15, Heb 11:35. | |
| Apr 11, 2023 at 12:28 | history | answered | Anne | CC BY-SA 4.0 |