Timeline for Did David and Saul have different afterlife theologies?
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| Jan 30, 2022 at 18:37 | comment | added | Rajesh | Were the apostolic fathers' apostles? You must realize. The Platonic conception of an immortal, conscious soul was very widespread in that day; it's very widespread today!! The apostolic fathers were not perfect, all-knowing men. Not even the apostle Paul knew everything(1 Corinthians 13:12). ALL of us are imperfect, sinful humans. But as I said in my answer, God knows that and does not hold that against us. And what a person's views are on the state of the dead isn't very pertinent to their relationship with God. The apostolic fathers were significant, but they did not know everything. :) | |
| Jan 30, 2022 at 18:13 | comment | added | Rajesh | "Do you think Paul had more revelation than David?" 100%! As I said in my answer, David probably did not absolutely know that the dead are unconscious, but he did have an idea. Paul, who was very, very experienced in the scriptures, and would have read all the passages I showed in my answer(including Ecclesiastes), and thus would have fully known the state of the dead. He definitely had more revelation than David. | |
| Jan 30, 2022 at 18:12 | comment | added | user38524 |
It's a good thing that they never had such revelations. - then how come the Apostolic Fathers thought otherwise? Check out this question: What is the view of soul sleep adherentes on statements from the Apostolic and ante-Nicene Fathers that seem to support post-mortal consciousness?
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| Jan 30, 2022 at 18:11 | comment | added | Rajesh | Thank you very much! :) "Continuing with the idea of progressive revelation, do you think the New Testament Apostles had even greater revelation on the afterlife?" See what I said here: "Do I mean that newer revelations can contradict and replace/nullify older revelations? No." If the Apostles' revelation was that the dead are conscious and being tormented/experiencing bliss, then that would contradict what God hitherto revealed in the Hebrew Bible. It's a good thing that they never had such revelations. | |
| Jan 30, 2022 at 18:09 | comment | added | user38524 | Regarding David having no expectations of consciousness in the afterlife, what are your thoughts on this question: Is to die gain or not? Paul (Philippians 1:21-24, 2 Corinthians 5:8) vs. David (Psalm 6:4-5, 30:9). Do you think Paul had more revelation than David? | |
| Jan 30, 2022 at 18:06 | comment | added | user38524 | Continuing with the idea of progressive revelation, do you think the New Testament Apostles had even greater revelation on the afterlife? What about the Apostolic Fathers? (+1, very elaborate and detailed answer.) | |
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| Jan 30, 2022 at 17:15 | history | answered | Rajesh | CC BY-SA 4.0 |