Timeline for Is "the bread is in effect common" (1 Samuel 21:5) as translated by the NKJV accurate?
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| Sep 9, 2021 at 19:18 | comment | added | Robert | Yes, I agree that the meaning is clear, it's a euphemism when asking about whether the men had sex. You don't need to understand this, but I cited some scholarly references to support my view as well as basic common sense. This is not a hard passage to parse but you have to have some awareness of euphemism and metaphor to do it. | |
| Aug 11, 2021 at 3:01 | comment | added | bach | I'm open to interpreting a text allegorically when it's called for, in this specific case I don't think your allegorical interpretation is warranted from the text, as the simple meaning is quite clear as I have demonstrated above. | |
| Aug 10, 2021 at 19:32 | comment | added | Robert | These examples of nuance and metaphor are something that many really struggle with. Some have a robotic literalist interpretation of all texts, and in that case they find examples of nuance "bizarre". This is something to work on to improve your own ability to understand the text. | |
| Aug 10, 2021 at 18:49 | comment | added | bach | Robert yes, it's talking quite simply about the pots and pans/eating utensils of the lads. Ahimelech refused to hand them over the showbread because he was afraid that the men were defiled, or that their vessels (not genitals!) were defiled. David answered that their men hadn't slept with their wives, and that their vessels have not been defiled either, so he has nothing to worry about. I'm not sure where you picked up this bizarre interpretation, and your whole answer is dubious at best. | |
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| Aug 10, 2021 at 17:33 | comment | added | Robert | Genitalia is one of the glosses of cli (among many others, e.g. "stuff", "equipment", "receptacle", rubies, cups, etc). But what kind of equipment do you think the Priest was asking about when he asked if the men hadn't been with women? That he didn't want them to cook with the women? The young men's pots and pans? Btw, this is not my reading of - cli - here, it is the standard reading. You can consult commentaries for more info if you still find this confusing or "misleading" | |
| Aug 10, 2021 at 17:26 | comment | added | bach | Robert how do you get genitals from vessels?? Your answer here is extremely confusing and misleading. | |
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| Aug 10, 2021 at 16:33 | history | answered | Robert | CC BY-SA 4.0 |