Timeline for What is the sensus plenior of The parable of the sower?
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| Jul 3, 2020 at 15:20 | comment | added | curiousdannii♦ | Where are your sources for things like this: "Vav is used for the Word"? | |
| May 7, 2020 at 6:14 | comment | added | David Anson | Thank you for thorough replies and spirited discussion. | |
| May 2, 2020 at 15:50 | comment | added | Bob Jones | Can someone help us move this to a forum? Done until then. | |
| May 2, 2020 at 15:48 | comment | added | Bob Jones | "Jesus of course was speaking to many people who were farmers themselves, so he spoke in a way that They would understand." according to your comments should read "Jesus of course was speaking to many people who were farmers themselves, so he spoke in a way that They would understand later when they were inspired by the Holy Spirit. " Though this appears to eliminate the simple understanding. | |
| May 2, 2020 at 15:45 | comment | added | Bob Jones | You have provided an interesting answer which am hoping to look into more deeply. I am asking questions to clarify your intent. You have provided a novel interpretation of the parable. You claim that the Greek is used to produce sensus plenior in away similar to the Hebrew., and you claim that the common Hebrew alphabet is used to produce meaning in words like the square text. I don't reject these off the cuff, but am interested if the claims can be validated. Sorry if I come across in any other way. | |
| May 2, 2020 at 15:41 | comment | added | Bob Jones | I'm not sure I understand your distinction between "firm in Belief" vs. "firm in Faith" You said those who were firm in their beliefs showed promise.. How can they show promise if the belief is not faith? This is a rabbit hole. I didn't twist it, I equated belief and faith, as is common. If you mean something else, please make it distinct. | |
| May 2, 2020 at 15:37 | comment | added | Bob Jones | I forgot how to invite to the forum... | |
| May 2, 2020 at 15:30 | comment | added | Bob Jones | Lets chat. i don''t intend to. I like your FFA. | |
| May 2, 2020 at 14:58 | comment | added | שייך ליהוה | See now I'm more confused because you're twisting what I said and I'm not sure why?!? You quote me about "Firm in Belief" but then twist it into Firm in Faith, why do that?!? Those are two totally different things. I even say that He showed much promise at the beginning but then was scorched once The Sun Rose. The context makes it pretty clear. | |
| May 2, 2020 at 13:48 | comment | added | Bob Jones | I think this is free-for-all allegory. It is pretty good FFA, but FFA none the less. | |
| May 2, 2020 at 13:46 | comment | added | Bob Jones | I think the farmers knew better. Weeds do not come from 'corrupted' or digested good seed. | |
| May 2, 2020 at 13:45 | comment | added | Bob Jones | "they were scorched due to them having no Root " So those who were firm.. had no root. | |
| May 2, 2020 at 13:44 | comment | added | Bob Jones | "The Root word that Rocky Places connect to is G4074 which is Peter, (in the sense of Simon Peter) this part of the story speaks for itself, The Rocky Places are those who are Firm in Their Beliefs" What is obvious to one is not to another. Can you make this plain? How do you get from Peter to those who are firm in their faith, when Peter was the least firm in his faith while a disciple. | |
| May 2, 2020 at 13:41 | comment | added | Bob Jones | What is the rationale for jumping between Greek and Hebrew to get the meaning? Technically 'Word' is not part of the body. Is the standard 'close enough'? Nor is Water. | |
| May 2, 2020 at 13:34 | comment | added | Bob Jones | Do you have a set of rules that eliminate free-for-all allegory? | |
| May 2, 2020 at 13:30 | comment | added | Bob Jones | Scripture was written in Square text, all the tedious rules for copying applied to the square text. It would be cool if it also works reliably and can be verified in the 'common' alphabet. | |
| May 2, 2020 at 13:14 | comment | added | Bob Jones | Did he speak simply, or in a way that can only be understood by the Spirit? What authority do the pictographs have? Can those meanings be applied to every Hebrew word? | |
| May 2, 2020 at 3:11 | comment | added | שייך ליהוה | I'm a little bit confused because I explained that in the reply? The idea was that Fallen Man does not have the ability to understand, but once Christ died and The Holy Spirit went out, those farmers now had the ability to understand through Jesus Christ. I think we would be in agreement that Jesus spoke in a way for people to eventually understand him through The Holy Spirit, like how he says to Nicodemus about not being able to understand earthly things as it is. But once our eyes were opened by him we are now able to understand these things. | |
| May 2, 2020 at 0:35 | comment | added | Bob Jones | How do you reconcile your premise "Jesus of course was speaking to many people who were farmers themselves, so he spoke in a way that They would understand." with : Mt 13:14 And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive: | |
| May 1, 2020 at 1:30 | history | answered | שייך ליהוה | CC BY-SA 4.0 |