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Mar 24, 2013 at 22:23 comment added Joseph @cdjc - I have a car with 200,000 miles on it, and there are noises coming from deep within the car. I learned from my mechanic that the car is barely running, but that the sounds coming from the radio (contemporary rock music) are not to be confused with the noises of the decrepit condition of the car -- although they are sometimes indistinguishable! This radio can and will be removed, and will "sing" in a new car one day.
Mar 23, 2013 at 8:08 comment added cdjc I've read and reread your answer a few times. But I'm still not clear what you mean. Are you saying that, given our groaning in anticipation of adoption and/or the creation groaning in childbirth, this is "in the same way as" the intercessory groaning of the Spirit on our behalf?
Mar 22, 2013 at 14:16 history answered Joseph CC BY-SA 3.0