Timeline for How should Revelation 11:15 be translated (so the implied pronoun and expressed referent agree)?
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| Jun 1, 2018 at 23:54 | comment | added | enegue | @Ruminator I have joined your chat with Revelation Lad | |
| Jun 1, 2018 at 23:17 | comment | added | Ruminator | Jesus does indeed rule for ever over Israel and I clearly said as much. But God alone rules over the kingdom of the world including the messiah who is henceforth just one more subject king of the LORD. | |
| Jun 1, 2018 at 23:14 | comment | added | Ruminator | There is an explicit third person masculine pronoun in enegue's translation as well as in all the major English translations. There is an implied masculine third person pronoun in the Greek. There must be agreement. How is it exegesis to ignore the rules of koine? | |
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| Jun 1, 2018 at 14:57 | comment | added | Revelation Lad | @Ruminator You insist there is referent pronoun. There is no pronoun in the reign. It should be obvious John was purposeful to omit the pronoun to create a phrase where the reader must focus on the meaning and significance of the reign. It appears your insistence there is a pronoun is driven by an understanding you are bringing to the text (from other places) rather than what this text states. | |
| Jun 1, 2018 at 14:43 | comment | added | Ruminator | So your analysis of the Greek is that John ignored the conflict between the number between the pronoun and its referent because it was obvious? That everybody would figure it out on their own? Rather than having the referent be to almighty God who is clearly the subject who takes them as rain? That is special pleading. Period. | |
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| Jun 1, 2018 at 4:45 | history | answered | enegue | CC BY-SA 4.0 |