Timeline for Romans 13 1-2 says abide by law but we go to other countries and break their laws
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Oct 7, 2017 at 14:28 | comment | added | enegue | He certainly didn't break any of God's laws, but don't you remember him being accused of harvesting on the Sabbath, and healing on the Sabbath, and plotting to destroy the Temple, etc? Come on, @Possibility, you are flogging a dead horse here. Take note that your quote adds Pilate's voice to those declaring "the rulers" as complicit in Jesus' demise. If you can't see it now, I guess you never will. | |
Oct 7, 2017 at 14:14 | comment | added | Possibility | "Pilate then called together the chief priests and the rulers and the people, and said to them, “You brought me this man as one who was misleading the people. And after examining him before you, behold, I did not find this man guilty of any of your charges against him. Neither did Herod, for he sent him back to us. Look, nothing deserving death has been done by him." (Luke 23:13-16 NIV) He did not break any laws. | |
Oct 7, 2017 at 14:02 | comment | added | enegue | @Possibility Well you are in conflict with Luke again here: "And he said unto them, What things? And they said unto him, Concerning Jesus of Nazareth, which was a prophet mighty in deed and word before God and all the people: And how the chief priests and our rulers delivered him to be condemned to death, and have crucified him." (Luke 24:19-20 - KJV). Jesus was taken to Pilate by the rulers of the people, i.e. those who were delegated authority over him as a citizen of the community, and they did so because they didn't like what he was publishing among the people. | |
Oct 7, 2017 at 13:47 | comment | added | Possibility | Okay, I'll agree with you there, but his 'preaching the gospel' was not against the ruling authorities (who were not the chief priests, scribes, or elders by the way), so I still stand by all three points. | |
Oct 7, 2017 at 13:19 | comment | added | enegue | That's not what Matthew and Luke tell us, @Possibility. "And Jesus went about all Galilee, teaching in their synagogues, and preaching the gospel of the kingdom, and healing all manner of sickness and all manner of disease among the people." (Matthew 4:23 - KJV); "And it came to pass, [that] on one of those days, as he taught the people in the temple, and preached the gospel, the chief priests and the scribes came upon [him] with the elders," (Luke 20:1 - KJV) | |
Oct 7, 2017 at 13:09 | comment | added | Possibility | Firstly, Jesus did not publish the gospel. He was a teacher with a new way of looking at things, and yes he certainly caused concern, but did not break the laws of the ruling authorities. Secondly, your claim that 'the gospel would not have made it...' is merely speculation. Thirdly, the passage doesn't say to 'please' the interim authorities, only to 'submit' to them, as Jesus did, even to his death, knowing that it was God's will. You're free to upset them as much as you want. Just stay within the laws. | |
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