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comment What is the “great mystery” in Ephesians 5:32?
Ok, I understand your style now. In light of my rebuttal, the statement that "John identified with the bride" seems hard to defend. Assuming nothing else but what is in the text, it is plain to see that John is a redeemed person of Israel. That's why he's the "greatest among all born of women", but less than "those of the Kingdom." I don't believe that all people who will ever be saved comprise the church. There will be saved Jews, Gentiles, and the Church of God (1 Cor 10:32) (neither Jew nor Greek (Gal 3:28) ). Btw I think your characterization of John's role is correct -- introducing.
Apr
11
comment What is the “great mystery” in Ephesians 5:32?
Huh... you seem to have pasted your previous comment after my latest one -- either that, or some kind of SO glitch... not sure what to make of this.
Apr
11
comment What is the “great mystery” in Ephesians 5:32?
Where does John identify with the bride? I only know of one passage including John the Baptist and the bride, and he explicitly does not include himself in the bride?
Apr
11
comment What is the “great mystery” in Ephesians 5:32?
Hey @rhetorician I'm not seeing anything to deal with? All 120 believers were Christians. Ephesians 1:13 "And you also were included in Christ when you heard the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation. When you believed, you were marked in him with a seal, the promised Holy Spirit". In Acts 19:2 you see some believers inducted into the body of Christ (not previously possible, as "Christ was not yet glorified" when they were baptized with John's baptism.) So I'm in agreement with everything you've said and not sure where the 'gotcha' is!
Apr
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comment What is the “great mystery” in Ephesians 5:32?
@rhetorician -- there's no redeemed sinner anywhere that will not be justified by grace on the merits of the atonement. That's the only way in. Being justified doesn't mean you're in the body of Christ. See John 3:29 -- there's the bride, the bridegroom, and the friend of the bridegroom. According to Matt 11:11 John was greater than all born of women, but lesser than those in the Kingdom, and Christians are born of God (John 1:13.) Good soteriology, in my opinion, the ecclesiology needs work!
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answered Per 1 Cor 10:8, when did God kill 23,000 for sexual immorality?