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Jun 9	comment	Can John's Passion chronology be reconciled with that of the Synoptics? @Jas3.1 I'm curious why even translations who support your theory still reckon other references incorrectly (such as footnotes claiming John 1:39 is 4 p.m. rather than 10 a.m. following this time scheme)? This isn't a challenge (you can't answer for translators), just an observation. Even so, there are numerous other clear disparities through out the synoptics when compared to John that makes it hard to even place the events in the same year when put on a big timeline of the entire book. Even so, your points are compelling if only the narrow passages dealing with the passion are handled.
Jun 9	comment	Can John's Passion chronology be reconciled with that of the Synoptics? I still have questions, but this is the clearest attempt I've seen yet. Thank you. +1. So you think everything that preceded the sentencing by Pilate happened before 6 A.M in the morning? Also, if we apply this standard of time here, how does that influence other chronologies of additional events in John (I'm not sure)? Just some thoughts
Jun 8	comment	Explanation of Chronological Disparities between St. John and the Synoptic Gospels Concerning Jesus' Passion But yes, perhaps this question is impossible to get a scholarly answer for on this site. I am indeed beginning to think that.
Jun 8	comment	Explanation of Chronological Disparities between St. John and the Synoptic Gospels Concerning Jesus' Passion I think @MatthewMiller has the best answer, he just hasn't given it here yet :P
Jun 8	comment	Explanation of Chronological Disparities between St. John and the Synoptic Gospels Concerning Jesus' Passion This is why I take them as a given, as do most respected biblical studies scholars (note I did not say Christian scholars, although many Christian scholars also take the contradictions as a given, such as NT Wright and Bart Ehrman). This is not a 'liberal scholarship' issue, there are several early church fathers and numerous scholars who believe the accounts of the gospels to be true who also recognize the disparities.
Jun 8	comment	Explanation of Chronological Disparities between St. John and the Synoptic Gospels Concerning Jesus' Passion @Jas3.1 please keep in mind that this is not a Christian site. Many early scholars/fathers such as Origen and Papias have also noted the chronological disparities in the gospels. This is isn't new. The attempts to resolve them are new (and as of yet, I haven't seen one attempt that satisfactorily treats all of the verses). The gospels don't even agree on the order of events or even the length of Jesus' ministry.
Jun 7	comment	Explanation of Chronological Disparities between St. John and the Synoptic Gospels Concerning Jesus' Passion This still seems like too much of a stretch, especially Mark 14:12 -- "And on the first day of Unleavened Bread, when they sacrificed the Passover lamb."
Jun 7	comment	Explanation of Chronological Disparities between St. John and the Synoptic Gospels Concerning Jesus' Passion I already did the Google flu for a couple days before asking this question and Ehrman's position is the direction I'm looking to understand most in some ways. I am hoping someone might help me grasp it more beyond this. Matthew Miller seems to also be commenting from a perspective that might be helpful also. I'm also curious what early Fathers had to say but don't have time right now to research it. Thanks, though for the link to that post, it has given me hope that maybe this is a possibility and perhaps there is a deeper meaning.
Jun 7	comment	Explanation of Chronological Disparities between St. John and the Synoptic Gospels Concerning Jesus' Passion @Mike I removed my DV as of the last edit. My apologies for my bias. I know it is a clear bias against Edersheim. I'm still more on the sinner end of the scale than the saint end, my apologies ;)
Jun 7	comment	Explanation of Chronological Disparities between St. John and the Synoptic Gospels Concerning Jesus' Passion @MatthewMiller I'm all ears. Consider answering and/or piping in here: chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/9134/…
Jun 6	comment	Explanation of Chronological Disparities between St. John and the Synoptic Gospels Concerning Jesus' Passion I wasn't aware that two of those references could be referring to the same Passover, that is. I've never heard that before.
Jun 6	comment	Explanation of Chronological Disparities between St. John and the Synoptic Gospels Concerning Jesus' Passion I find Ehrman's argument very interesting, and possibly I agree with him (not sure yet). Can you expand on the implications of this a little? (Perhaps quote the book even). If so this will be the accepted answer.
Jun 6	comment	Explanation of Chronological Disparities between St. John and the Synoptic Gospels Concerning Jesus' Passion I wasn't aware of that, Matthew.
Jun 6	comment	Explanation of Chronological Disparities between St. John and the Synoptic Gospels Concerning Jesus' Passion I see. Interesting.
Jun 6	comment	Explanation of Chronological Disparities between St. John and the Synoptic Gospels Concerning Jesus' Passion I created a room: chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/9134/…
Jun 6	comment	Explanation of Chronological Disparities between St. John and the Synoptic Gospels Concerning Jesus' Passion I ask why his chronology conflicts from the synoptics. I never asserted whose was correct. I'd love to hear more about the other theory - especially since that means the first written accounts were inaccurate, including Luke's, which throws a lot of things into doubt.
Jun 6	comment	How and why did Jesus weep? Beyond that I don't really know what I'm looking for. If I did, I wouldn't have asked the question haha
Jun 6	comment	How and why did Jesus weep? Mike attempts to reconcile the chronology of the passages to say there is no contradiction. I actually think there is a contradiction, but it's intentional.
Jun 6	comment	Accuracy of Alfred Edersheim's “Life and Times of Jesus the Messiah” @Mike yes and no. I see your point and I do agree that a question like that would be good. At the same time, Edersheim is somewhat unique among NT/Jewish scholars because he often goes beyond making observations based on primary sources and actually makes lots of speculative assertions about the meaning of various events in the NT. If the premises of his assertions are faulty, it would also follow that the assertions themselves should be called into question. I'm curious to see who (among scholars) finds his work to be authoritative and who does not.
Jun 5	comment	How and why did Jesus weep? I'd love to hear your thoughts on another question, this is exactly the type of viewpoint I'm looking for on St. John: hermeneutics.stackexchange.com/questions/5009/… (I think he intentionally chose to use a different chronology for spiritual/symbolic reasons).