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Feb
9
comment What does it actually mean “Judge not, that ye be not judged”?
@LukeBreuer - In fact, looks like a valid answer to me. Why not post it as an answer instead of a comment that could be erased by moderators at any time?
Feb
1
comment Did God say that Adam will die on the same day he ate the fruit?
I just got stricken by one funny idea. 2 Peter 3:8 tells us that with God one thousand years is like one day, and Genesis 5:5 tells us that Adam died when he was 930 years old. So, his lifetime did not exceed 1000 years, which means he DID die on the same 1000-year-long day, which is also the same day when partook of the wrong tree :)
Feb
1
comment What is Luke's purpose for recording this narrative and ultimately Jesus' reason to express this account of the rich man and Lazarus to those present?
@JLB - (2) "If not why regurgitate a portion of Mr Welch's book" - I was only trying to shortly answer your own question ("What do you mean "challenging the validity"?"). "...without reference" - Because I have already given you the reference (link) to that book on another page.
Feb
1
comment What is Luke's purpose for recording this narrative and ultimately Jesus' reason to express this account of the rich man and Lazarus to those present?
@JLB - (1) "seems by your reply, you have come to your own view" - you got me exactly opposite to what I meant in my reply. I don't have my own view yet. I did read Welch's book on this issue, but, as I told you in my comment on another page, many of his points I simply didn't get - I still need to study those points. That's why, in fact, I asked you to read that book because you may have a better understanding of them - regardless of whether you would agree with them or not.
Feb
1
comment What is Luke's purpose for recording this narrative and ultimately Jesus' reason to express this account of the rich man and Lazarus to those present?
"Maybe you should give an answer and defend your view, and include some of the book. Take a stab at it - I challenge you" - :) No need to challenge me here as I don't have my own view on this point yet.
Feb
1
comment What is Luke's purpose for recording this narrative and ultimately Jesus' reason to express this account of the rich man and Lazarus to those present?
"What do you mean "challenging the validity"?" - If I got it right, he says there that this whole story about Lazarus and the rich man is a kind of product of a wrong belief that Jews used to hold (he uses Flavius Josephus' words as a proof of that), but of which no part of the OT is supportive, so Jesus used that wrong-belief story as a contrast to what He was teaching. Same approach is for the parable of the unjust steward earlier in the same chapter.
Feb
1
comment What is Luke's purpose for recording this narrative and ultimately Jesus' reason to express this account of the rich man and Lazarus to those present?
Did you read that book by Welch, the link to which I gave you? If not, he is talking there about it, challenging the whole point of validity of this story about Lazarus and the rich man. Or... are you asking this question because you've just read that book and want to get a broader scope of views?
Jan
31
comment Did God say that Adam will die on the same day he ate the fruit?
@T.A.E. (2) physically alive, yet already sinful, Adam as simply dead. And, therefore, He used the word "die", not "spiritually die". And Jesus also used the word "dead" in Luke 9:60 ("Let the dead bury their dead"), not "spiritually dead". It does not contradict to the men's need to be born of Spirit. However, you can't accuse God in Genesis and Jesus in Luke 9:60 of forgetting to use the word "spiritual" in those cases. What for us is "spiritually dead" is simply "dead" for God - regardless of whether or not the person is still physically alive.
Jan
31
comment Did God say that Adam will die on the same day he ate the fruit?
@T.A.E. (1) "There is much more than eventual physical death, and that is the sense in which I use the word "simplistic" - What makes you think I don't know that or don't believe in that?!!! What you are saying doesn't contradict to my view at all and doesn't say anything new to me either. I know that as soon as someone sins he is in need of rebirth. I know that there is much more than eventual physical death. I know all of that and I do believe in that. It is just that God considered the
Jan
31
comment Did God say that Adam will die on the same day he ate the fruit?
@T.A.E."It's also important to distinguish between ... Man does not have life without the breath of life..." - And how is that contradictory to my "awfully simplistic" view? And what makes you think I don't know what is written in Genesis 2:7?
Jan
31
comment Did God say that Adam will die on the same day he ate the fruit?
@T.A.E. "God couldn't have meant that they would die physically that day, unless you think God is a liar" - Which is exactly what I said. So, I don't understand what is your point? What you are saying is exactly what my view also is. How is my view "an awfully simplistic view of things"?
Jan
30
comment Did God say that Adam will die on the same day he ate the fruit?
@T.A.E. (3) My example, with an apple torn off an apple tree can still help here - apple can still be "alive" for some time, however, it is already dead. This perspective, by the way, does not at all nullify the validity of all those things that Jesus said about the need to be born of Spirit. You may also want to consider Jesus' words in Luke 9:60 ("Let the dead bury their dead"). There is no contradiction here.
Jan
30
comment Did God say that Adam will die on the same day he ate the fruit?
@T.A.E. (2) On that day when Adam partook of the tree of knowledge something really terrible happened to him, something that God described as simply "death". Yes, physically, Adam was still alive and would still be living for about 900 years, however, from that point on, for God Adam was dead (if not, then, as OP has rightly pointed out, God had lied to Adam).
Jan
30
comment Did God say that Adam will die on the same day he ate the fruit?
@T.A.E. (1) "What death experience would Adam and Eve had known at that point?" - And what of being born of Spirit had they known at that point? When I said "death is death" I meant that the death mentioned by God in Genesis 2 is described by Him with only one word, that is, "death". For some reason, God chose not to specify it as "spiritual", nor did He consider it to be important to inform Adam and Eve at that point of their need to be born of Spirit. In this present question we are considering exactly what is meant by the words "you will surely die" in Genesis 2.
Jan
30
comment Is “for ever and ever” eternal?
Thank you for this answer. "If the posting person "Brilliant" needs me to clarify anything please don't hesitate to ask" - okay, I have a first one, have you read Welch's HELL, or “Pure from the blood of all men”? I would want to know your perspective on his points there. I don't mean to say that I am fully supportive of those points, in fact, many of them I didn't get and I still need to study them more closely, and you may have a better understanding.
Jan
17
accepted Given the differences between Hebrew and Aramaic, how are the Aramaic sections identified?
Jan
13
accepted 2 Tim 4:17: “I was delivered from the lion’s mouth” - Is this about Colosseum?
Jan
13
comment 2 Tim 4:17: “I was delivered from the lion’s mouth” - Is this about Colosseum?
"it's best to look for evidence of an extant idiom rather than speculate about Paul's history" - Both are needed. "No one believes that Paul was literally inside a lion's mouth and was delivered out of it" - Of course, I didn't mean the exact literal sense. "Paul, a roman citizen, could be executed only by beheading, not by being eaten by lions" - This is a very strong point. Thank you.
Jan
13
comment 2 Tim 4:17: “I was delivered from the lion’s mouth” - Is this about Colosseum?
Could it be so that during his first imprisonment, before he was acquitted and, thus, set free, he was facing the option of being executed in that manner in Colosseum? Could he be referring here to that his first imprisonment and the subsequent release?
Jan
12
comment 2 Tim 4:17: “I was delivered from the lion’s mouth” - Is this about Colosseum?
Was 2nd Timothy written after Paul stood before Cesar in Rome?