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I am in my senior term at the Seminary of the Wilderness. My first ten years were spent as bi-vocational pastor/evangelist in Utah preaching of Christ how I knew best and trying to improve by learning theology from Reformed, Wesleyan, Pentecostal, Baptist and other sources. The second ten years were spent as a BVP/E and discovering that I didn't know what I thought I knew and reading the Bible without outside influence. At the beginning of the third ten I started seeing Christ in the OT, and tried to figure out how and why. I intend in the fourth ten to figure out how to communicate what I learned last term. After that I might be useful for something.

My bias in approaching the Bible is that I believe that it exists in a form today sufficiently intact to be considered infallible. That apparent contradictions are intentional riddles designed to guide us in focusing on different aspects of Christ. That sensus plenior exists in a form which is discernible in a verifiable, and reproducible manner. And that God is a rewarder of those who diligently seek him.


Jul
14
comment Are there scriptural standards by which a hermeneutic method can be measured?
It is the unspoken principle of popular typology where darkness is evil and leaven is sin and 6 is the number of man.
Jul
14
comment Are there scriptural standards by which a hermeneutic method can be measured?
Where do you get this: ""If Scripture directly interprets a symbol, then that is the meaning it has everywhere in Scripture, with few exceptions." or is it just a hypothetical example?
Jul
14
comment Are there scriptural warrants for using the rule of first mention?
Any one of these will do. I don't know where it first appeared bu tlots of people mention it. google.com/…
Jul
13
comment Does the Gospel of Thomas help in reproducing the hermeneutical methods of the apostles?
Aren't you first interpreting Thomas as though it is literal in order to produce your conclusion? The question is really, Do the apostles and Thomas read the OT in similar fashions, and how does Thomas help us reproduce the apostle's elusive hermeneutic?
Jul
13
comment Does the Gospel of Thomas help in reproducing the hermeneutical methods of the apostles?
The last saying you quote is parallel to this: Mt 23:13 ¶ But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in [yourselves], neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in. Thomas uses the "kingdom of heaven" as a reference to the esoteric knowledge.
Jul
12
comment Were offices given to produce “unity of the faith” or to hold things in place until Christ comes and gives it to us?
"These type of believers he calls men." Are you intentionally or accidentally supporting the SP metaphor that woman represents those who don't see clearly, or the blind, and men represent those who understand (the seeing)?
Jul
10
comment What does the prohibition against women speaking in church in 1 Corinthians 14:34-35 mean?
@soldarnal Does that mean you don't think the possibility that Paul isn't even speaking of a literal woman is even important if the OP didn't ask about it? or ever?
Jul
10
comment Is hermeneutics primarily descriptive or prescriptive?
@Galactic "The concept of hermeneutics has acquired at least two different but related meanings which are in use today. Firstly, in the older sense, Biblical hermeneutics may be understood as the theological principles of exegesis which is often virtually synonymous with 'principles of biblical interpretation' or methodology of Biblical exegesis. Secondly, the more recent development is to understand the term 'Biblical hermeneutics' as the broader philosophy and linguistic underpinnings of interpretation. " I am old enough to use the older definition ;-)
Jul
9
comment Are there scriptural warrants for using the rule of first mention?
lets discuss this so we can accept it: chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/4051/first-mention
Jul
9
comment Was Adam created as complete man containing both male and female?
@monica Nope. Earliest is Zohar for development by rabbis. Alphabet ben Sira is anonymous so we don't know if he was a rabbi or not. So I edited it to reflect that.
Jul
9
comment According to Scripture, how should we interpret Scripture?
It appears that rules and principles are being used interchangeably. Shouldn't this get sorted out?
Jul
8
comment What is “the hermeneutical circle”?
@swashek Thanks. I didn't think we were too far apart in our thinking on it.
Jul
8
comment Was Adam created as complete man containing both male and female?
I think Inclusio is what I was thinking.
Jul
8
comment Was Adam created as complete man containing both male and female?
@swasheck possibly.. just don't remember. When I studied it I saw the phenomenon, but didn't know how to put meaning to it. The pattern is used in Genesis apparently to encapsulate individual stories.
Jul
8
comment What is “the hermeneutical circle”?
@swasheck Sorry if it sounds accusatory, not intended. I am trying to understand the dynamic you propose with the spirit guiding into different meanings. I would make the case that with a proper hermeneutic and guidance by the Spirit, we can know God's intended meaning (unity of the faith). I am hearing you say that multiple meanings are OK as long as they are guided by the spirit, as if there is not a meaning attributable to the text itself. Where am I missing it? The free-for-all appears to be attributed to the Spirit.
Jul
8
comment What is “the hermeneutical circle”?
@swasheck why have hermeneutics at all if the Spirit is free to guide us in any direction from the text. Why have a text at all?
Jul
8
comment How can we determine if a text is sarcastic?
@Richard Rabbi Eliezer's rule 32 permits anachronism (out of order interpretation) A method should be judged by the claims it makes for itself, not by those imposed by another system. Besides, the order of publication tells us nothing about the order they were taught. It is plausible that the letters contain teachings that were common to Paul wherever he went, and the letters just remind them of his teaching to address current issues.
Jul
8
comment What does the prohibition against women speaking in church in 1 Corinthians 14:34-35 mean?
1Sa 2:9 He will keep the feet of his saints, and the wicked shall be silent in darkness; for by strength shall no man prevail. Here the wicked are silent and 'concealed' in darkness. Perhaps Paul is making reference to this?
Jul
8
comment What does the prohibition against women speaking in church in 1 Corinthians 14:34-35 mean?
None of the answers address Paul's teaching that there is no male or female in Christ Jesus. If it that apparent contradiction is not explained, a full understanding of this passage cannot be claimed. Likewise, Jeremiah claims that all men will become pregnant. That sure confuses the issue concerning gender.
Jul
8
comment According to Scripture, how should we interpret Scripture?
@Jas actually, these rules are derived from the text, but a bit simplistic: To let scripture interpret scripture: 1. Read the scripture 2. Read the scripture around the scripture. The first goes without saying, but the second is too broad to be helpful. What is the context? In SP it is the context of all the scriptures which are linked by way of using the same words and ideas in the text and immediate context of the verse being considered.