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No, John 14:16 cannot be used to "cancel" the Trinity and posit a Quaternity (or whatever), and specifically not "Spirits" of past and present. In the understanding of later Christian tradition, the Christian Bible depicts God as outside time in any case: see, e.g. Psalm 90:2 or 1 Timothy 1:17. That is why the "past" and "present" Spirits are nonsensical. ...


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Jad, I think I am one of those who appeal to John 20 but not primarily for Pentecostal leanings, but rather to show that the disciples were already saved believers before the Day of Pentecost. A link between Matt. 18 & John 20 may exist, but only to the extent that Jesus was reiterating a principle established on at least two other occasions, namely ...


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To the Colossians, the apostle Paul and Timothy (cp. Col. 1:1) wrote that Epaphras (cp. Col. 1:7) "declared to us your love in the Spirit" (Col. 1:8). It is this same "love" that the apostle Paul refers to in Col. 1:4, when he writes, after we heard of your faith in Christ Jesus and [your] love that is for all the saints. ἀκούσαντες τὴν πίστιν ὑμῶν ...


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A scripture of remarkable interest! First of all, it is important to recognize that Jesus in not actually accomplishing the act of giving them the Holy Ghost. Instead, this seems to be John's account of the same declaration found by Luke where Christ commanded His disciples to "tarry ye in the city of Jerusalem until ye be endued with power from on high" ...


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8 the love never falls. but whether prophecies, they will be rendered idle; whether tongues, they will stop; whether knowledge, it will be rendered idle. 9 for we know out of part and out of part we prophesy; 10 but when the finished thing should come, the one out of part will be rendered idle. 11 when I was young, I was speaking as young, I was thinking ...


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Perhaps the most important verse in this brief exchange is the following verse,(vs 50) And Jesus said unto him, Forbid him not: for he that is not against us is for us. It's apparent that this individual saw Jesus cast out demons, and saw the disciples cast out demons; what he did not see was the Scribes and Pharisees cast out demons. The key passage ...



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