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The fact of Jesus's obedience, could only be ascertained after he died, because of the wording of "he learned obedience through what he suffered. And being made perfect..." implies that he became "perfected" only as a result of him being "obedient unto death", since it is also written "he humbled himself by becoming obedient to death". In short, his ...


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Although he was a son, he learned obedience through what he suffered. And being made perfect (τελειωθεὶς), he became the source of eternal salvation to all who obey him, being designated by God a high priest after the order of Melchizedek. (Hebrews 5:8-10 ESV) How this applies to Jesus who was already perfect can be seen in how the word is used ...


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As a non-Christian, I take it to mean, "manufactured perfectly" in the that he was "produced" from Mary's womb. The people who translated the English quote you provide thought of God (Jesus) as eternal, unchanging, so your question makes a lot of sense but I think if you look at it like an imperfect translation you'll see the slightly different angle on ...


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There is nothing in the text that supports Jesus being simultaneously in the form of a god and in the form of a slave and much to argue against it: the participle υπαρχων derives its temporal situation from the aorist verb ηγησατο and the context indicates that this is in the past with reference to Paul; the verb εκενωσεν ("emptied") indicates that he not ...



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