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Genesis 3:6 (NIV) When the woman saw that the fruit of the tree was good for food and pleasing to the eye, and also desirable for gaining wisdom, she took some and ate it. She also gave some to her husband, who was with her, and he ate it.

When I look at different translations of Genesis 3:6, I found these unique differences.

  1. Popular translation is "who was with her".
  2. Other common translation is "her husband with her".
  3. Some do not have "who was with her". (RSV)

This may prove helpful in understanding the presence or absence of Adam while the serpent and Eve were having a conversation.

1 Timothy 2:14 (NIV) And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner.

If this verse is true, it sounds more like Adam was absent when the deception by serpent was going on or was not listening to their conversation. If Adam heard their conversation, he might have interrupted. So the question is, was Adam present when the serpent was talking with Eve or not?

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I see four answers to this question, all with negative scores. Is an expert willing to take a shot at it? – Solocutor Apr 20 at 21:52

1Timothy tells us it was Eve who was deceived and not Adam.

Genesis tells us Adam was with Eve, so Adam was there when the serpent tempted Eve.

So, how can it be Eve who was tempted while Adam was there? I think the answer is very simple. Adam was there, but the serpent adressed Eve. Adam stood there and let Eve take the lead, which he shouldn't have.

I think it'll be more clear when we read 1Tim 2 in context, Paul says the womem shouldn't have authority over men and gives 1Tim 2:14 as an argument. The man (Adam) should have acted like the head and say: "I am the one who make decisions."

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1. Question Restatement:

In Genesis 3, was Adam present when the serpent was talking with Eve or not?

Note: The "Blame Game" is often injected into this context - anachronistically - and without merit.

2. Answer:

In the context - the narrative is clearly showing Eve fulfilling the role that God had set out - to stand before Adam, advocating for him - even contending with the Serpent.

3. Context and Hebrew Terms:

Verb tenses: Singular and plural verbs are intertwined in this passage - but make sense within a legal context: while representing another.

Eve's Role as An Advocate for Adam:

The Hebrew phrase, "Ezer Kenegdo", from "עזר כנגדו" - means "Helper before Him".

NASB, Genesis 2:18 - Then the Lord God said, “It is not good for the man to be alone; I will make him a helper suitable, (עזר כנגדו, Ezer Kenegdo) for him.”

Note: There is no linguistic precedent to translate "כנגדו / kenegdo" as "Suitable".

The idiom is used extensively throughout Hebrew Scripture, to invoke a "legal" sense - to imply: advocacy, accountability, championing another, etc, (Genesis 31:37, Genesis 33:12, etc) ...

Adam's Plausible Deniability:

Because Eve was Adam's "Advocate" - Adam responded properly:

NASB, Genesis 2:12 - The man said, “The woman whom You gave to be with me, she gave me from the tree, and I ate.”

Eve's Proper Defense:

Eve did not point her finger back at Adam, but rather defended him instead: "There is evil in this world ..." :

NASB, Genesis 2:13 - And the woman said, “The serpent deceived / נָשָׁא me, and I ate.”

In her argument, Eve essentially pleaded "Entrapment" - acknowledging that they did in fact transgress the commandment - but only because they were improperly lured into doing so - by an angel! ...

As a result: Eve's unconditional advocacy for Adam, standing before him - prevailed over the judgment of death.

4. Harmonizing Genesis 3, with 1 Timothy 2:14 & 1 Corinthians 11:9-10 :

Including because the original question raised the issue ...

Mankind is Vulnerable to Teaching False Wisdom:

NASB, 1 Timothy 2:14 - And it was not Adam who was deceived, but the woman [his advocate] being deceived, fell into transgression.

NASB, Ezekiel 28:17 - “Your heart was lifted up because of your beauty; You corrupted your wisdom by reason of your splendor.

NASB, Isaiah 56:11 - ... And they are shepherds who have no understanding; They have all turned to their own way, Each one to his unjust gain, to the last one.

Therefore, the Pursuit of Justice Must be Held Accountable:

NASB, 1 Corinthians 11:9-10 - for indeed man was not created for the woman’s sake, but woman for the man’s sake. 10 Therefore the woman ought to have a symbol of authority on her head - BECAUSE OF THE ANGELS.

But, what does "Because of the Angels" refer to?

The role of advocate necessarily depends on an authority for accountability - and necessary because: Even the Angels fell in this way - forsaking their role to advocate for mankind, (See Jude, Enoch 7, Genesis 6:4).

This is to ensure that those who are entrusted with advocacy - do not falsely represent and oppress others, (Regarding Accountability in Justice: Deuteronomy 16:19, Perversion of Justice: Isaiah, Jeremiah, etc, etc).

NASB, Habakkuk 1:7 - “They are dreaded and feared; Their justice AND authority originate with themselves.

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I just wanted to say, Eve was deceived. See, it says that God told Adam, but there is no record of God telling Eve. Eve was deceived, and Adam was punished more because it was his seed that lost eternal life. Adam had to have been with her. He didn't stop her, and he waited until she tested it before he did. The lack of eternal life comes through the Y Chromosome.

Romans 5:12-20 New International Version (NIV)

"Death Through Adam, Life Through Christ 12 Therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, and in this way death came to all people, because all sinned—

13 To be sure, sin was in the world before the law was given, but sin is not charged against anyone’s account where there is no law. 14 Nevertheless, death reigned from the time of Adam to the time of Moses, even over those who did not sin by breaking a command, as did Adam, who is a pattern of the one to come.

15 But the gift is not like the trespass. For if the many died by the trespass of the one man, how much more did God’s grace and the gift that came by the grace of the one man, Jesus Christ, overflow to the many! 16 Nor can the gift of God be compared with the result of one man’s sin: The judgment followed one sin and brought condemnation, but the gift followed many trespasses and brought justification. 17 For if, by the trespass of the one man, death reigned through that one man, how much more will those who receive God’s abundant provision of grace and of the gift of righteousness reign in life through the one man, Jesus Christ!

18 Consequently, just as one trespass resulted in condemnation for all people, so also one righteous act resulted in justification and life for all people. 19 For just as through the disobedience of the one man the many were made sinners, so also through the obedience of the one man the many will be made righteous.

20 The law was brought in so that the trespass might increase. But where sin increased, grace increased all the more, 21 so that, just as sin reigned in death, so also grace might reign through righteousness to bring eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord."

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First of all, In the book of Genesis, there is no passage in the book where God told Eve not to eat of the tree of knowledge. By this, when Eve told Satan that she would die if she ate, even though the text does not say, she had to get this information from her husband, Adam.

Secondly, If God had gave Adam specific instructions on what tree not to eat from, AND the fact that he (Adam) gave Eve the same info, do you think if Adam was there he would have allowed the deception to take place? The key word here is "cunning" which means the serpent waited until Eve was alone to start the deception. It 's no different than a Cunning Man, who knows a woman is say married or involved with someone, and tries to hit on her. He will wait until her Man is not around and with deception will try to make a play.

Thirdly, The "With Her" statement. I believe that when the deception took place, Adam was somewhere tending to the garden as he was before Eve was formed. Eve took the fruit, went to Adam, and at that time gave Adam the fruit. We have no idea if the fruit on one tree looked different than the fruit on the tree of life, etc. Since this is the case, Adam's mistake was not asking Eve where she got the fruit from. I believe that since he had already told Eve not to eat of a certain tree, he trusted her to do the right thing, so he ate the fruit because he thought it was okay. That's why Adam was upset with and blamed Eve when God asked him about eating the fruit. So no, he was not there when Eve was deceived.

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"The key word here is "cunning" which means the serpent waited until Eve was alone to start the deception." How do you know this? How is that part of the meaning of cunning? – curiousdannii Oct 23 '14 at 22:11

I think Adam was not present when Eve was deceived, because

1 Timothy 2:14 (NIV) And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner.

if Adam was not deceived how than he would allow his beloved wife Eve to be deceived to eat the forbidden fruit. and also the word "with her" could not only means that Adam was with her in that place, it could be like she is living with Adam (sorry im not eloquent in english) eg: if some one ask us "are you living alone ?" we use to say "im with my parents" that doesnt mean the parents are with me at that place they could be at home or work. so Moses may try to say that she gave the fruit to Adam who is living with her since its ancient Hebrews.

We may never find out! In the Hebrew text,, it states וַיֹּאכַֽל׃ (and he did eat 'verb') עִמָּ֖הּ (with her 'preposition') A preposition is a word or set of words that indicates location. They did eat it together but it can be argued if the serpent was there at the time. So it may never be conclusive whether Adam was actually there at the moment of temptation but I do know that all three, the serpent, Eve and Adam were present when God pronounced judgement. Genesis 3:14/19

14 And the Lord God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:

15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.

16 Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.

17 And unto Adam he said, Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eat of it: cursed is the ground for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life;

18 Thorns also and thistles shall it bring forth to thee; and thou shalt eat the herb of the field;

19 In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return.

As for 1 Timothy 2:14 The author was addressing brash and controlling women in the church. If you read from 2:12 to 2:14 the context becomes clear that the discussion is about church matters. A good read is John Gill's commentary on this subject. Be sure to read through to verse 14.

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