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I have never been able to come to a satisfactory conclusion with reference to the opening of the sixth seal and the blowing of the seventh trumpet as referenced in the book of Revelation.

In Revelation 6:12-17 it is written (NIV)

12 Then I saw Him open the sixth seal. A violent earthquake occurred; the sun turned black like sackcloth made of goat hair; the entire moon became like blood; 13 the stars of heaven fell to the earth as a fig tree drops its unripe figs when shaken by a high wind; 14 the sky separated like a scroll being rolled up; and every mountain and island was moved from its place. 15 Then the kings of the earth, the nobles, the military commanders, the rich, the powerful, and every slave and free person hid in the caves and among the rocks of the mountains. 16 And they said to the mountains and to the rocks, "Fall on us and hide us from the face of the One seated on the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb, 17 because the great day of Their wrath has come! And who is able to stand?"

Then with reference to the blowing of the seventh (final trumpet) it is written in Revelation 11:15-19.

15 The seventh angel sounded his trumpet, and there were loud voices in heaven, which said:

‘The kingdom of the world has become the kingdom of our Lord and of his Messiah, and he will reign for ever and ever.’ 16 And the twenty-four elders, who were seated on their thrones before God, fell on their faces and worshipped God, 17 saying:

‘We give thanks to you, Lord God Almighty, the One who is and who was, because you have taken your great power and have begun to reign. 18 The nations were angry, and your wrath has come. The time has come for judging the dead, and for rewarding your servants the prophets and your people who revere your name, both great and small – and for destroying those who destroy the earth.’ 19 Then God’s temple in heaven was opened, and within his temple was seen the ark of his covenant. And there came flashes of lightning, rumblings, peals of thunder, an earthquake and a severe hailstorm.

After studying these two portions of scripture, it is very clear that they are both final events in the book.

My understanding is that the sixth seal and the seventh trumpet happen in conjunction with each other-but the problem with my understanding is.....

The seventh seal should be the last seal to be opened, (one would think) but the seventh seal does not speak of the "End Time" in the way that the sixth seal does.

The only conclusion i can arrive at is,the seventh seal is opened before the sixth seal.The reason i arrive at this conclusion is because the opening of the seventh seal activates the start of the judgement's, Here but the sixth seal implies the judgement's have ended.Here

This question, here,could be answered by the interpretation and a credible answer to my question.

In summary, i view the seventh seal and the sixth seal as being "back to front." The information contained in the seventh seal would make more sense,if it was contained in the sixth seal and vice versa.

My question- is the 7th seal opened before the 6th seal.

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Why do you say the sixth seal implies the judgments have ended? –  Jas 3.1 Jul 5 at 16:44
    
Rev 12:5 describes Jesus Birth and Death, For when Jesus comes again it will not be from a birth, but from the sky (Ref: Acts 1:11). The peoples idea of a rapture is incorrect, and a terrible distraction. If you want to know about the end of this age read this. "Then comes the end, when He delivers the kingdom to God the Father, when He puts an end to all rule and all authority and power." (1 Corinthians 15:24 NKJV). –  Only he is good. Jul 6 at 3:07
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All of Matthew 24 is a regular event, and is heavy with metaphors. This is not end times speak in the perspective of the end of all things. Yet it is an end time for the One Person Event Level. "Assuredly, I say to you, this generation will by no means pass away till all these things take place." (Matthew 24:34). To understand the fig tree parable you need to understand how he uses all of his parables. But to explain "When its branch has already become tender and puts forth leaves, you know that summer is near." You are the branch. When weak in watching. The sun comes out. So the death. –  Only he is good. Jul 6 at 3:17
    
Mark 13 is the same discussion but with the missing details that are needed to completely understand. ...“Do you see these great buildings? Not one stone shall be left upon another, that shall not be thrown down.” (Mark 13:2 NKJV) The stones represent ones attitude. And because of pride and unbelief the house falls, so one falls to depression. But soon the sun no longer comes out to destroy. The fire is always ready to burn those that exalt themselves, until all things are completed. Therefore watch your attitude and believe, unless you suffer being filled with wrath, and fall from Flesh Laws. –  Only he is good. Jul 6 at 3:26
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@Jas3.1- I do not believe in the rapture.I believe after the seventh trumpet is sounded,the end comes.After this, the book of life is opened and some will receive eternal life and some will receive punishment (Hell) People would probably refer to me as Futurist/Dispensationalist.Hope this helps! –  Bagpipes Jul 7 at 9:12

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Short Answer

No. I am not aware of any system of understanding Revelation that puts the 7th seal before the 6th. The 6th is either viewed as contemporaneous or preceding the 7th.

Two Major Views

NOTE: The following discussion is from a futurist perspective of Revelation.

Robert L. Thomas discusses two major views on Revelation (note, these are not the only views, but are two very common views), the Recapitulation view and the Telescopic View.1 Recapitulation views the series of sevens as essentially parallel (not necessarily one for one, though normally so, but at least that the events of the 7 Seals occur in some parallel time frame with that of the 7 Trumpets and 7 Bowls). Telescopic views the series as consecutive (each set follows the preceding set), that is, the 7th Seal "contains" the 7 Trumpet judgements within it, and the 7th Trumpet "contains" the 7 Bowl judgments in them, similar to a spyglass type telescope that collapses for storage (hence the name telescopic view). Some try to merge the two ideas (Thomas sees hermeneutical issues with this; 56-57), and both views often recognize textual intercalations (narrative within Revelation that are inserted between the main events of the three series of sevens that may or may not be directly related to those series at the point of insertion).

Recapitulation View

Notice that if a one-for-one relation is upheld, then it does not answer your question. For the events noted in the 6th seal appear to parallel events of the 7th Trumpet and 7th Bowl, not the 6th of those series. This is recognized as an issue with recapitulation of this nature (Thomas, 49).

It is common to associate the 6th Seal (6:12-14) with the 4th Trumpet (8:12) regarding the effects of sun/moon/stars, either that the 4th Trumpet must precede the darkening of the 6th Seal (Thomas, 49), or the reference in the 6th refers to the events of the 4th. Also, Thomas notes a recapitulation view that parallels the 6th of each sequence.2

The most common way to view the 7th Seal in this view is a symbolic parallel to the final rest after the judgments. This would be one possible reconciliation to your question that keeps the 7th after the 6th. However, Thomas notes a weakness of this resolution is that it makes the 7th seal entirely different in character from not only the other 6 seals, but the other two series of 7, all of which contain some reference to judgment (Thomas, 50). This and other issues cause Thomas to hold that recapitulation is not likely the best view (Thomas, 52).

Representation

  One-for-one (timeline is exactly parallel)
Seals     1st  2nd  3rd  4th  5th  6th  7th
Trumpets  1st  2nd  3rd  4th  5th  6th  7th
Bowls     1st  2nd  3rd  4th  5th  6th  7th

  Generally (timeline is roughly parallel, not necessarily 1 to 1)
Seals     1st-7th
Trumpets  1st-7th
Bowls     1st-7th

Telescopic View

While Thomas holds this view, it is recognized that it suffers from the challenge of explaining the events noted in the 6th Seal which appear to parallel final events (per Mt 24:29). However, Thomas does note there are arguments against seeing these two events as being the same (Thomas, 55). He sees telescoping as overall better supported than recapitulation, especially in chronological relations, some of which are very clear in the text (Thomas, 58). In the telescopic view, Seals 1-6 are generally viewed as "the 'Little Apocalypse' of Christ," the "birth pains" (Mt 24:8) that precede the last events (Thomas, 53), and so in specific reply to your question, the events of Seal 6 are different (but with some similarities) from that of the later events that are noted of similar type. So Seal 6 is not final.

Strictly speaking, the telescopic view Thomas espouses holds that:

So the seals and trumpets occur one after the other in numerical sequence and are non-cumulative, i.e., each one finishes before the next one begins (59).

But the bowls, though consecutive, are viewed with cumulative effects (Thomas, 59; largely based off Rev 16:2 [1st Bowl] effects still noted in 10-11 [5th Bowl]), and so do not finish "before the next one begins" as the seals and trumpets.

Representation

Seals     1st  2nd  3rd  4th  5th  6th  7th
                        _________________|_________________
Trumpets                |1st  2nd  3rd  4th  5th  6th  7th|
                                       _________________|_________________
Bowls                                  |1st  2nd  3rd  4th  5th  6th  7th|

Modified Telescopic View

I personally lean toward a modified telescopic view, with the further clarification that each seal/trumpet/bowl contains all the following within them.3 Thus all the judgement events are "contained" within the 1st Seal, and each successive event contains all the following ones.

This allows for both consecutive events to be occurring from one to the next, while also allowing for not so much a recapitulation of events (though one might view it that way), but rather a forecasting of events to come.

That being so, note how this can resolve your particular question about how the 6th Seal seems "final" yet not final. Viewed in this method, Rev 6:12-17 states events that do occur within the 6th seal, but they also happen to be a forecasting of events that do not actually take place until the later Trumpet/Bowl judgments, and so the 6th seal contains a summary of events yet to occur, and also possibly the events specifically of chapter 7 with the sealing of the 144,000. In some ways, the 6th Seal would be similar in nature to the 5th. In the 5th, the robes were given to those already slain; in the 6th, the seal is given to some still alive. In other words, the 5th and 6th seals are both doing present effects to certain classes of people in preparation for the events forecasted to come from the 7 Trumpet/Bowl judgments.

I hesitate to make any direct correspondence to events noted in Rev 6:12-17 with later events, though there are some clear parallels to many of the events of the 7th bowl (Rev 16:18-20), yet some might also relate to events as early as the 1st Trumpet—is the blood falling from the sky (8:7) what makes the moon appear as blood (6:12), and the smoke of the burning (8:7) what darkens the light of the sun (6:12)? I'm not committed to that parallel, but at the same time, it seems worth pondering, especially if Rev 6:12-17 has any chronological relationship to the events noted within itself (they may not, they may just be summarizing "events" that are coming). If the 1st Trumpet does parallel, the Mt 24:29 reference to timing of the sun and moon events would then place the "tribulation of those days," which occurs immediately before the sun/moon event according to Matthew, at the time frame of the first 4 Seals. That may or may not be valid.

Such a chronological parallel, however, with this scheme need not be so fixed, because the events of Rev 6:12-17 need only occur sometime within the 7th Seal and the following 7 Trumpet/Bowl events, since all are contained within the 6th seal anyway.

Representation

                                         1st Seal
____________________________________________|____________________________________________
|                                        2nd Seal                                       |
  __________________________________________|__________________________________________
  |                                      3rd Seal                                     |
    ________________________________________|________________________________________
    |                                    4th Seal                                   |
      ______________________________________|______________________________________
      |                                  5th Seal                                 |
        ____________________________________|____________________________________
        |                                6th Seal                               |
          __________________________________|__________________________________
          |                              7th Seal                             |
            ________________________________|________________________________
            |                          1st Trumpet                          |
              ______________________________|______________________________
              |                        2nd Trumpet                        |
                ____________________________|____________________________
                |                      3rd Trumpet                      |
                  __________________________|__________________________
                  |                    4th Trumpet                    |
                    ________________________|________________________
                    |                  5th Trumpet                  |
                      ______________________|______________________
                      |                6th Trumpet                |
                        ____________________|____________________
                        |              7th Trumpet              |
                          __________________|__________________
                          |              1st Bowl             |
                            ________________|________________
                            |            2nd Bowl           |
                              ______________|______________
                              |          3rd Bowl         |
                                ____________|____________
                                |        4th Bowl       |
                                  __________|__________
                                  |      5th Bowl     |
                                    ________|________
                                    |    6th Bowl   |
                                      ______|______
                                      |  7th Bowl |

Conclusion

In short, to my knowledge, no interpretation places the 7th Seal prior to the 6th Seal. The sequence is usually recognized as valid at least within the sequence itself (how it relates across the sequences is what is variously interpreted), and at best might be viewed in some recapitulation views as contemporaneous.

However, there are enough views on Revelation out there that someone may unearth a view that does try to do exactly what you are asking about, some reordering of the sequence (though if such exists, I would question that such a view is the best understanding of the text, simply because the sequence then becomes meaningless—it would become difficult to explain why the sequence is there at all).


NOTES

1 Robert L. Thomas, "The Structure of the Apocalypse: Recapitulation or Progression?" Master’s Seminary Journal 4 (1993), 45-66. The following discussion of the two main views uses this source extensively.

2 In n.21, the source listed by Thomas is Andrew E. Steinmann, “The Tripartite Structure of the Sixth Seal, the Sixth Trumpet, and the Sixth Bowl of John’s Apocalypse” (Rev 6:12–7:17; 9:13–11:14; 16:12–16),” JETS 35/1 (March 1992).

3 While there may be others who understand Revelation this way, the idea expressed comes from my own thinking through of the issues involved with correlating events. Eschatology is a large field of study, and I have not entirely settled on specifics for everything, so consider what is given as preliminary ideas (I may change my mind about things in the future).

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Thanks! for your answer.With reference to the trumpets and bowls,i have observed something that i can only describe as being "odd" I try to forget about this "oddity" and i refer to it as,myself reading to much into the text,but it does continue to "nip at my heels," so it has become an issue.In Rev:8-2 we read, And i saw seven angels who stand before God,and to them were given seven trumpets- Rev:8-6 Then the seven angels who had the seven trumpets prepared to sound them.In Rev:15-1, we read,I saw in Heaven another great and marvellous sign: seven angels with seven last plagues.continued –  Bagpipes Jul 9 at 11:36
    
last because with them Gods' wrath is completed.In Rev:16-1 we read,Then i heard a loud voice from the temple saying to the seven angels,"Go, pour out the seven bowls of Gods' wrath on the earth.My thinking is that it should be a "trumpet" that signals the pouring of the bowls, but in Rev:16-1, it is a "loud voice" that activates the bowls.Because of this point,i am left wondering if the trumpets and bowls are independent of each other.Do we have an explanation for this "oddity" in any of the commentaries? –  Bagpipes Jul 9 at 11:56
    
@Bagpipes That is a totally different question than the order of the 6th/7th seals being opened. In short, though, why do you think a "trumpet" needs to signal the pouring? The 7 Trumpets already sounded (are sounding?). In both of the telescopic views above, the Bowls are contained within the 7th Trumpet, but do not necessarily (and indeed, do not) start pouring at the beginning of the sounding of it. Only that the 7th Trumpet sounding precedes the Bowls (whether still sounding or having finished sounding during the Bowls). So the voice of Rev 16:1 need not negate the idea. –  ScottS Jul 9 at 13:37
    
Please do not think i am "nit-picking" your answer.Yes, it is a different question, but i thought it was relevant.To answer your question- "why do you think a "trumpet" needs to signal before the pouring." My thinking is motivated by the fact that every time a trumpet is sounded- a different judgement is released. –  Bagpipes Jul 9 at 14:55
    
@Bagpipes Every time a trumpet sounds, judgment is triggered. Chap. 8-16 show that. The 7th Trumpet sounds, but that does not mean that a "loud voice" cannot also be the start of the pouring. At the 7th Trumpet is the opening of the temple in heaven (11:19), from which 2 angels come out for the harvest reaping of the earth (14:15, 17), and out of which comes the 7 angels who will pour the 7 last plagues (15:5-6), and the temple is effectively "closed" for entry until their work is done (15:8), but from the open (at Trumpet 7) yet closed temple comes the voice starting bowl judgments (16:1). –  ScottS Jul 9 at 15:57

The seals, trumpets, and bowls appear to be cascading events, which the following graph depicts -

This model reflects the plain and normal reading of the text of Revelation. For example, the breaking of the seventh seal indicates the "revelation" of the seven trumpets.

Revelation 8:1-2 (NASB)
1 When the Lamb broke the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven for about half an hour. 2 And I saw the seven angels who stand before God, and seven trumpets were given to them.

Also, the same parallel appears to occur with the seventh trumpet.

Revelation 8:13 (NASB)
13 Then I looked, and I heard an eagle flying in midheaven, saying with a loud voice, “Woe, woe, woe to those who dwell on the earth, because of the remaining blasts of the trumpet of the three angels who are about to sound!”

The fifth woe (trumpet) occurs in Rev 9:1-12, and the result is five months of extreme torment on earth; then the sixth woe (trumpet) occurs in Rev 9:13-21, and the result is the death of one-third of mankind "by armies of horsemen" led by four angels. The seventh woe (trumpet) however does not occur until Rev 11:15-19, and then provides no detail of any divine judgment on earth.

In other words, the seventh woe (trumpet) releases the bowl judgments, because the sixth trumpet ("armies of horsemen" led by four angels) provided the blood for the seven bowl judgments, which the world will drink. (Please click here for the detailed discussion of this point.) That is, at the seventh trumpet the temple in heaven was opened (Rev 11:19), and at that time, the angel in the temple announces the reaping of blood from the earth (Rev 14:15); the "blood" of those killed "outside the city" will rise the bridle of these horses (Rev 14:20), which were mentioned in the sixth trumpet, who were led by the four angels. Thus the seventh trumpet (third woe) comprises the seven bowls, which are filled with the blood from the sixth trumpet (second woe). This "blood" is what the world will drink (that is, death in undiluted full-strength), since they had poured out and drunk the blood of the saints of God (Rev 16:6 and Rev 17:6).

In summary, this graph helps us to view the respective events as consecutive. That is, we cannot "overlap" them in parallel, but must view them instead as sequential events that will climax in the seventh bowl judgment (Second Coming of Christ).

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@Jas3.1 - do the edits above provide sufficient detail to understand the overall view? –  Joseph Jul 8 at 0:47
    
Yes, thanks. I have many questions for you when I get more time, but for now I have removed my DV. –  Jas 3.1 Jul 8 at 2:20
    
With reference to the chart- I see that ( seal 7 ) activates the trumpets and bowls. Then trumpet 1 activates bowl 1, trumpet 2 activates bowl 2, and the progression continues in this way up to the final trumpet and final bowl. Is my understanding of the above correct? –  Bagpipes Jul 8 at 9:47
    
@Bagpipes - Seal 7 contains the 7 trumpets, and Trumpet 7 contains the 7 bowls. The structure suggests the linear sequence of events, and therefore does not suggest any collateral or concurrent (or parallel) occurrence of the events. –  Joseph Jul 8 at 17:48

There are numerous and varied sources to choose from, both quoted in previous answers and in other commentaries, so rather than indulge in the wide range of opinions on this topic, I will attempt to highlight key essentials in understanding the truths of Revelations, and attempt to draw a conclusion on Rev. 6:12-17.

Progression of the Seals

What must be understood by modern men is that the "book"(biblivon) is in fact a scroll; written on both the front and the back,

Then I saw in the right hand of him who sat on the throne a scroll with writing on both sides and sealed with seven seals.(Rev. 5:1 NIV)

It is very important to understand this scroll was written on both sides. We see parallel accounts in Ezek. 2:9-10(KJV),

And when I looked , behold, an hand was sent unto me; and, lo, a roll of a book was therein; 10 And he spread it before me; and it was written within and without: and there was written therein lamentations, and mourning, and woe.

This leads us to an important discovery: The seals cannot be a collection of seals across the document, as a typical Roman or Greek document, since one cannot "see" writings on the backs of said documents. Therefore, one does not open all these seals "at once", rather, they are meant to be progressively opened by the one having the authority to do so, and then the contents are revealed for all to see.

The seals are opened progressively; the text tells us so. Each seal is "opened", and the contents of the scroll are exposed-both front and back. Therefore, one must 'break' the 5th seal before getting to the 6th seal, and one must 'break' the 6th seal before getting to the 7th. This is a Jewish scroll, not a Greek/Roman one, as illustrated by the parallel passage of Ezekiel. God works 'progressively'; we don't get to the 3rd day of creation without the 2nd, etc. But just as in the creation account, the work of the previous days doesn't disappear, rather, it is augmented by the following day.

So therefore, based on the plain reading of the text and the biblical pattern, we then can say the 6th seal gets opened before the 7th.

Meaning of the 6th Seal

I posted an answer to the 1st seal(read here), stating that the 1st seal is the gospel(white horse) who's rider is represented by governments that conquered(or colonized) lands to spread it. This began at the time of Constantine and has persisted to modern times.

The 6th seal parallels Jesus's statements about His Eminent Return,

And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring; 26 Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.(Luke 21:25-26)

This is "The Great Day of the Lord". What is important to understand is that these signs immediately precede His Return,(Joel 2:30-31)

And I will shew wonders in the heavens and in the earth, blood, and fire, and pillars of smoke. 31 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and the terrible day of the LORD come.

Some have taught that this 'happened' figuratively at Pentecost, since Peter quoted this passage in Acts 2:19-20. But the simple truth is, it has not happened yet, and we cannot 'stretch' our imaginations to fulfill scripture, any more than we can 'imagine' a wide chasm next to the Mount of Olives per Zechariah 14:4. Since the context of the passage is Literal(there is in fact a "dark sun" and in fact "blood moons"(we witnessed this on the 1st day of Passover this year), we can conclude the context is Literal.

As it relates to the trumpet and bowl judgments: as previously discussed, this is "the Day of the Lord's Return", not measured in 24 hour increments, but the 'season' where all things are fulfilled. The 7th seal can very well mean "the Lord's Return" as no man knows the day or hour(Matt. 24:36) In Rev. 10:7, it says,

But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets,

meaning that there is a further delineation of the time of the 7th Seal.

Again, what is important to remember is when the seal is opened, then it's opened; there's no 're-sealing' it. The same with the trumpets and bowls, once they are 'sounded and poured', then the activity continues until the Lord's Return.

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These final events lead up to the end of the "Laws of the Circumcision of the Flesh" (The Laws given through Moses)

Then the temple of God was opened in heaven, and the ark of His covenant was seen in His temple. And there were lightnings, noises, thunderings, an earthquake, and great hail. (Revelation 11:19 NKJV)

We can see in the conclusion here that what is seen is the "ark of his covenant" (The Laws given as the Ten Commandments). Therefore marking the beginning of the "Laws of the Breath" (The Laws given as the Ten Commandments).

Now Notice what this Trumpet Heralds: The Kingdoms of our Lord

Then the seventh angel sounded: And there were loud voices in heaven, saying, “The kingdoms of this world have become the kingdoms of our Lord and of His Christ, and He shall reign forever and ever!” (Revelation 11:15 NKJV)

What was Proclaimed?: The Kingdom of Heaven

In those days John the Baptist came preaching in the wilderness of Judea, 2 and saying, “Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand!” (Matthew 3:2 NKJV)

For Jesus to Die Ending the time of the "Laws of the Circumcision of the Flesh" He must be Born.

Now a great sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a garland of twelve stars. 2 Then being with child, she cried out in labor and in pain to give birth. 3 And another sign appeared in heaven: behold, a great, fiery red dragon having seven heads and ten horns, and seven diadems on his heads. 4 His tail drew a third of the stars of heaven and threw them to the earth. And the dragon stood before the woman who was ready to give birth, to devour her Child as soon as it was born. (Revelation 12:1-4 NKJV)

Then Jesus Died Marking the End of Those Days!

She bore a male Child who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron. And her Child was caught up to God and His throne. (Revelation 12:5 NKJV)

After his death the "kingdoms of this world" where cast out of heaven.

And war broke out in heaven: Michael and his angels fought with the dragon; and the dragon and his angels fought, 8 but they did not prevail, nor was a place found for them[a] in heaven any longer. 9 So the great dragon was cast out, that serpent of old, called the Devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world; he was cast to the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. 10 Then I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, “Now salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of His Christ have come, for the accuser of our brethren, who accused them before our God day and night, has been cast down. 11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony, and they did not love their lives to the death. 12 Therefore rejoice, O heavens, and you who dwell in them! Woe to the inhabitants of the earth and the sea! For the devil has come down to you, having great wrath, because he knows that he has a short time.” (Revelation 12:7-12 NKJV)

Marking the end to the "Laws of the Circumcision of the Flesh" that where contrary to the "Laws of the Breath".

For the flesh lusts against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh; and these are contrary to one another, so that you do not do the things that you wish. (Galatians 5:17 NKJV)

See How the Sixth Seal was in fulfillment of the Prophet Joel.

The earth quakes before them, The heavens tremble; The sun and moon grow dark, And the stars diminish their brightness. (Joel 2:10 NKJV)

The sun shall be turned into darkness, And the moon into blood, Before the coming of the great and awesome day of the LORD. (Joel 2:31 NKJV)

The sun and moon will grow dark, And the stars will diminish their brightness. (Joel 3:15 NKJV)

Now all of that was first to show you the timing for when Trumpets did sound (Before the Time of Jesus). Now I need to show you that they are all location specific.

Let us follow the Events of the 7th Location. (The Church of the Laodiceans).

When He opened the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven for about half an hour. 2 And I saw the seven angels who stand before God, and to them were given seven trumpets. (Revelation 8:1-2 NKJV)

Then the seventh angel sounded: And there were loud voices in heaven, saying, “The kingdoms of this world have become the kingdoms of our Lord and of His Christ, and He shall reign forever and ever!” (Revelation 7:15 NKJV)

The Result

...And there were lightnings, noises, thunderings, an earthquake, and great hail. (Revelation 11:19 NKJV)

Then the seventh angel poured out his bowl into the air, and a loud voice came out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, “It is done!” 18 And there were noises and thunderings and lightnings; and there was a great earthquake, such a mighty and great earthquake as had not occurred since men were on the earth. (Revelation 16:17-18)

Now that shows us that trumpets where given after the seventh seal, and that the seals and the trumpets occurred in the specific locations. Can we prove that the seventh seal was after the sixth? In Revelation 6 we see a progression of the seals opening up.

Now I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals.. (Revelation 6:1 NKJV)

When He opened the second seal.. (Revelation 6:3 NKJV)

When He opened the third seal.. (Revelation 6:5 NKJV)

When He opened the fourth seal.. (Revelation 6:7 NKJV)

When He opened the fifth seal.. (Revelation 6:9 NKJV)

I looked when He opened the sixth seal.. (Revelation 6:12 NKJV)

When He opened the seventh seal.. (Revelation 8:1 NKJV)

None of these events say after. Let us look to the referencing for the trumpets. Now when I used (New King James Version) the verses where using "Then the" but looking to the Greek it definitely is saying "And the second, third.. etc. angel sounded".

So technically there is no way to prove by the words that even the 6th trumpet occured before 7th trumpet. However, the writer has a style that shows how he does chronological orders.

To learn this we need to look to the book of Daniel.

Then he shall confirm a covenant with many for one week; But in the middle of the week He shall bring an end to sacrifice and offering... (Daniel 9:27a NKJV)

Now it is important to understand that the week being mentioned is considered a week of years made of 360 days. When Jesus Died he died in the middle of this week "bring an end to sacrifice and offering". That leaves us with 3.5 years. Let us see how these 3.5 years played out.

Now after Jesus Dies on the cross and is taken to the right hand of the Power.

Then the woman fled into the wilderness, where she has a place prepared by God, that they should feed her there one thousand two hundred and sixty days. (Revelation 12:6 NKJV)

Now if you figure one thousand two hundred and sixty days you will see that it comes to 3.5 years.

Now when the dragon saw that he had been cast to the earth, he persecuted the woman who gave birth to the male Child. 14 But the woman was given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness to her place, where she is nourished for a time and times and half a time, from the presence of the serpent. (Revelation 12:13-14 NKJV)

Now if you figure time and times and half a time. Again you come to 3.5 years.

So you see that he explained an event which lead to a marker, then went back in time to lead to the marker. This is why I believe that all of the seals where broken at the same time, and that all the trumpets where sounded at the same time, and all the vials of wrath at the same time.

And has some backing because of this command.

Then I heard a loud voice from the temple saying to the seven angels, “Go and pour out the bowls of the wrath of God on the earth.” (Revelation 16:1 NKJV)

The command was one order for all of the bowls to be poured out. So I do not have proof that all of the seals where broken at the same time, or that all the trumpets sounded at the same time. Yet all the angels prepared to blow at the same time.

So the seven angels who had the seven trumpets prepared themselves to sound. (Revelation 8:6 NKJV)

So I give it a fair 85% chance that all the seals, trumpets, and vials where broken at the same time, when there time was due. I could give lower probability to exact instantaneous occurrence, yet it Comes from God, and his was are perfect. So Instead I say that If indeed the events where to happen at the same time, God would made it perfect.

So to Answer the Question Point Blank: Is the “7th seal” opened before the “6th seal” book of Revelation? I believe they where opened at the same time. However He saw the first seal be opened. and He looked at the sixth seal being opened. So momentaneous is still possible, yet all things have order.

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